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  • jamil

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    You think that someone at Fox is going over every charity that they match funds to?

    I think that the company they paid to handle that job, sends them a bill for what they owe. If the company is on the approved list by that company, why would someone at Fox care. That is what they pay that company for. They have somewhere around 9K employees. Any or all of which could donate to multiple charities. It would be a full time job for someone at Fox to do that. Which is why they pay someone else to do it.
    Yeah. Accountants have to have some reason to exist, right? You think that shows up on the ledger "randome charity that we don't care who is getting our money"? If they don't know who they're giving money to they're foolish. That's a recipe for getting canceled from both sides.
     

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    Yes, I do. Somebody somewhere audits and reviews where the money goes. At least that’s my experience working for a large corporation. Somebody in some cubicle somewhere has a PowerPoint deck showing how the corporate giving is spread across the communities so they can brag about their giving.
    And make sure they're not giving money to Nazis.
     
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    Yeah. Accountants have to have some reason to exist, right? You think that shows up on the ledger "randome charity that we don't care who is getting our money"? If they don't know who they're giving money to they're foolish. That's a recipe for getting canceled from both sides.
    Foolish? Maybe. Accountants wouldn't give two :poop: s who the money was going to. As long as it checked the appropriate boxes to be written off correctly.
    That's not the number in question. Which charities does the app support? I doubt all of them. Surely HR would have some kind of vetting process to make sure there are no right wing charities on it.
    There are over 1 million. They do have a system. It is called a third party that specializes in that for a whole lot of big corps. From the website, there was a process to apply to the company to be included. All handled by that company. Obviously Fox had the right to stop a charity from being on the list, since they apparently removed the Satanic Temple, but that again is far different than actually approving every one of them. When you hire a company to do a job, you generally let them do that job.
     

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    When you hire a company to do a job, you generally let them do that job.
    Yes and no. At least the company I’m most familiar with you provide a document that provides all sorts of specs and deliverables. They have any number of requirements. And when the contractor screws up…by, let’s saying getting your company’s name in the news in a bad way, they “stand down”. They do an autopsy to figure out why the company’s name is in the news (ie where the contractor screwed up) and they tell the contractor what they expect to do to make sure it never happens again.

    Maybe Fox is different. I doubt it‘s that different. My most charitable take is they were oblivious because it wasn’t causing them headlines. My more cynicle take is they were doing what they had to do to score a good ESG score so they could go along and get along. My most cynical take is these charities comport with their corporate culture.
     

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    Nah. That's too much risk. If you're matching charity, you better know where your money's going. It would be foolish to trust a third party to vet charities that are socially safe to support.
     

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    Yes and no. At least the company I’m most familiar with you provide a document that provides all sorts of specs and deliverables. They have any number of requirements. And when the contractor screws up…by, let’s saying getting your company’s name in the news in a bad way, they “stand down”. They do an autopsy to figure out why the company’s name is in the news (ie where the contractor screwed up) and they tell the contractor what they expect to do to make sure it never happens again.

    Maybe Fox is different. I doubt it‘s that different. My most charitable take is they were oblivious because it wasn’t causing them headlines. My more cynicle take is they were doing what they had to do to score a good ESG score so they could go along and get along. My most cynical take is these charities comport with their corporate culture.
    If it were me in charge of that, I would narrow the list of charities they support, and let employees request charities. The requested charities would have to be vetted before allowing the third party handler turn that charity on for the company.
     

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    If it were me in charge of that, I would narrow the list of charities they support, and let employees request charities. The requested charities would have to be vetted before allowing the third party handler turn that charity on for the company.
    Analyzing which employees contribute to which charities would be a handy way of prioritizing the layoffs list.
     

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    Maybe Fox is different. I doubt it‘s that different. My most charitable take is they were oblivious because it wasn’t causing them headlines. My more cynicle take is they were doing what they had to do to score a good ESG score so they could go along and get along. My most cynical take is these charities comport with their corporate culture.
    This is what I think happened. Who thinks a charity match for employees is going to blow up in their face?

    My company has a foundation that insulates them from it. They give money to the foundation and the foundation does the charity matching.
     

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    Nah. That's too much risk. If you're matching charity, you better know where your money's going. It would be foolish to trust a third party to vet charities that are socially safe to support.
    Have you looked into it at all? Or are you just buying into the rage bait?

    Who has the time to vet over 1 million charities?

    That is the company doing the work.
    This is the portal to register with them. Doesn't say anything about the company it is for, just a country.
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    And here are some of the other companies that chose to push this job off on Benevity
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    jamil

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    Have you looked into it at all? Or are you just buying into the rage bait?
    I'm not raging. I'm saying if I were in that position and the company matched donations, I'd want to make sure there are no surprises. Keep the list smallish. Mainstream. Let people ask.

     
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    It's hard to believe a corp, especially a large public corp, would match funds and not know which "non-profit charity" is receiving the funds. Does the large corp necessarily audit the political bent of every charity? Probably not, unless there is blowback. Did Fox know where their matching funds went? Yep. Doubly so since the blowback. Did Fox audit/care/even think about where the (matching) funds went? Unlikely. The third party excuse happens, usually on purpose. No business conglomerate of any kind (at the Billion dollar level) fails to review money spent, on what and for what regard. Fox has the right to manage their business spending as they see fit and that's too bad for those of us that still retain some sense of sanity.
     

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    I’ve just heard clips of the debate the other night but based on the parts I did hear, Fox really **** the bed that night.

    Dana really is a CoC, GHW Bush, type Republican.
     

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