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    If all her cash is from the dems biggest supporters what does that make her? Certainly not conservative…
    How much of her cash is from Dem supporters?

    Did you say the same thing about MAGA candidates bankrolled by Chuck Schumer in R primaries because the left knew they couldn’t win?

    Haley is a Republican, one that was appointed by Trump.

    The orange kool-aid is strong around here. Don’t let your love of Trump change your sense of reality. Her positions are generally aligned with GOP.
     

    Tripp11

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    How much of her cash is from Dem supporters?

    Did you say the same thing about MAGA candidates bankrolled by Chuck Schumer in R primaries because the left knew they couldn’t win?

    Haley is a Republican, one that was appointed by Trump.

    The orange kool-aid is strong around here. Don’t let your love of Trump change your sense of reality. Her positions are generally aligned with GOP.
    I'm having a difficult time seeing a path for her to win the GOP nomination - based on the already held primaries and the polling for future primaries, the path simply isn't there for her to win. The last SC polling I saw had her down 30+ points.

    So, what is she doing? Just staying in it to sling mud at the eventual GOP nominee? Sure, that will help the GOP come November.

    At some point, she needs to do what's best for the party. Staying in the race isn't doing it.
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    I'm having a difficult time seeing a path for her to win the GOP nomination - based on the already held primaries and the polling for future primaries, the path simply isn't there for her to win. The last SC polling I saw had her down 30+ points.

    So, what is she doing? Just staying in it to sling mud at the eventual GOP nominee? Sure, that will help the GOP come November.

    At some point, she needs to do what's best for the party. Staying in the race isn't doing it.
    I don’t think she can win. I think she knows that.

    I think she is going to stay in as long as she can to be the alternative to our front runner should the party see a need to pivot. The reasons to pivot come from court cases and age.

    If something happens to Trump’s old man health- she’s sitting there with delegates.
    If he gets a felon title that the D’s are desperately trying to stick on him (because that would hurt) then she’s sitting there with delegates.

    Shes also got political life left- so some of this could be positioning.
     

    Tripp11

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    If it's just her being in a position to assume the GOP nomination IF Trump were not able to take the nomination, then why continue the barbs and attacks? She could take the high road and say that she's going to continue to do town halls, listen to voters, make public appearances; however, she's going to step away from the process and allow Trump to be the GOP candidate. She could work WITH Trump rather than against him.

    If she had a legitimate shot at beating Trump for the GOP nomination, then stay in the race and continue to do what you think is best to win - but IMO she can't win and she's doing more harm to the GOP than good at this point.

    Good discussion HKFan - appreciate it.
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    If it's just her being in a position to assume the GOP nomination IF Trump were not able to take the nomination, then why continue the barbs and attacks? She could take the high road and say that she's going to continue to do town halls, listen to voters, make public appearances; however, she's going to step away from the process and allow Trump to be the GOP candidate. She could work WITH Trump rather than against him.

    If she had a legitimate shot at beating Trump for the GOP nomination, then stay in the race and continue to do what you think is best to win - but IMO she can't win and she's doing more harm to the GOP than good at this point.

    Good discussion HKFan - appreciate it.
    I think Trump wants the barbs and attacks to keep the press attention there and to keep the image of him winning. This doesn’t hurt Trump, IMO.

    I don’t see how she works WITH Trump. I think she is running as an alternative on the hopes that Trump takes on too much water somewhere or something happens and she is what is left standing. To be in position, she needs to go to the convention with delegates.

    Typically, I’d say this is such a longshot that it isn’t worth doing. This cycle is unique and Trump’s vulnerabilities are unusual. As long as she has the money and the cameras, why not?

    Personally, I’d say getting wiped in your home state is a knockout blow, but if the money is there…
     

    Ingomike

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    How much of her cash is from Dem supporters?
    A lot. Been posted here in several places that both the campaign and pac’s are bringing in dem money.

    Did you say the same thing about MAGA candidates bankrolled by Chuck Schumer in R primaries because the left knew they couldn’t win?
    Nope, because they had a chance to win, Haley does not. Even you admit that, so the only logical reason is they want her to trash Trump.

    Haley is a Republican, one that was appointed by Trump.
    Been over that. You don’t know what time it is. 2016 was a time to try to moderate with the wishy washy middle. That time is over. Trump selected a globalist UN type to be an ambassador to her kind. Post term endeavors have further shown who Niki is.

    The orange kool-aid is strong around here. Don’t let your love of Trump change your sense of reality. Her positions are generally aligned with GOP.
    TDS fever distorts the true picture…
     

    Ingomike

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    If he gets a felon title that the D’s are desperately trying to stick on him (because that would hurt) then she’s sitting there with delegates.
    If the ***** tape gets released.

    If the special prosecutor is appointed.

    If he is impeached.

    There are dozens of other that could be added here.

    “Whooped em again Josey...”
     

    flint stonez

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    Read the OP’s question and felt the need to respond on Nikki. To me she’s everything wrong with the Republican Party. She’s obviously a “war forever” kinda girl. As it appears that there is less and less difference between the Republicans and Democrats she would be the perfect leader of the Uniparty. Even if she were somehow able to get the nomination there is No Way I could vote for her. It’s hard to believe she’s made it as long as she has. I would never vote for whoever ends up being the democrat candidate nor would I skip the duty to vote. I would have to opt to write in my vote. I know that’s a “wasted” vote but I’m done voting for crappy republicans to stop crappy democrats that are basically the same candidate.
    JMO
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    If the ***** tape gets released.

    If the special prosecutor is appointed.

    If he is impeached.

    There are dozens of other that could be added here.

    “Whooped em again Josey...”
    It’s not an incredible reach that he gets a felon title. They want nothing more than to put felon on every ad and every billboard because polling shows people don’t want a felon in the WH. Comparing this to the pee tape myth is a reach.
     

    Ingomike

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    It’s not an incredible reach that he gets a felon title. They want nothing more than to put felon on every ad and every billboard because polling shows people don’t want a felon in the WH. Comparing this to the pee tape myth is a reach.
    Past history has shown us that every time they think they will defeat him for good, he continues on. BS that you didn’t think the pee tape would take Trump down at the time of it breaking…
     

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    They are feverishly trying to unjustly put the felon tag on him in many cases in order to affect the election proving all along that they have a political motivation for getting one of many spaghetti throwing lawfare cases to stick.
     
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    They are feverishly trying to unfairly put the felon tag on him in many cases in order to affect the election proving all along that they have a political motivation for getting one of many spaghetti throwing lawfare cases to stick.
    The good news is that Trump has, presumably, the funds to fight all of these federal and state cases being thrown at him. Unfortunately, most of the US citizens (which includes his colleagues and just normal Joe's) don't have the funds to put up a fight which is why 98%+ of federal cases get plead out before going to trial - shockingly, it's reported that perhaps as many as 50% of those defendants are pleading guilty to a charge they did not commit.
     

    Ingomike

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    They are feverishly trying to unfairly put the felon tag on him in many cases in order to affect the election proving all along that they have a political motivation for getting one of many spaghetti throwing lawfare cases to stick.
    And as this continues to look more and more political to normies…

    Obviously, the Democrats think that if any jury in the world passes judgment on Donald Trump then a bunch of Normies are going to get the vapors and refuse to vote for him. But normal people don’t believe in the legal system. They see what’s happening. They understand he can’t get a fair trial in New York, Atlanta, or Washington, DC. They know it’s all a lie. They know it’s all a scam. The objective fact is that his persecutions have made him more popular. Every time they pull this nonsense I’m exponentially more eager to go and pull the voting lever for Donald Trump in November. And I am not unique.”

     

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    And as this continues to look more and more political to normies…

    Obviously, the Democrats think that if any jury in the world passes judgment on Donald Trump then a bunch of Normies are going to get the vapors and refuse to vote for him. But normal people don’t believe in the legal system. They see what’s happening. They understand he can’t get a fair trial in New York, Atlanta, or Washington, DC. They know it’s all a lie. They know it’s all a scam. The objective fact is that his persecutions have made him more popular. Every time they pull this nonsense I’m exponentially more eager to go and pull the voting lever for Donald Trump in November. And I am not unique.”

    This is why I for one won't be disheartened in my support by their lawfare. I know that I have been critical of Trump at times in the past and am not apologetic for it now but in this case, I am all the way onboard in the fight against the opposition's political lawfare agenda deployed against Trump to take him out. My eyes can see it for what it is and I despise it above all else.
     
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    HKFaninCarmel

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    Past history has shown us that every time they think they will defeat him for good, he continues on. BS that you didn’t think the pee tape would take Trump down at the time of it breaking…
    All BS-
    1- he lost in 2020
    2- he can’t win in court
    3- Buzzfeed story/Dossier always smelled like BS
    4- bs derailed his momentum significantly
     

    DadSmith

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    Democrat donor's,
    Democrat voters are being mobilized to vote for Haley in the Republicans primaries.

    They are attacking Trump from all angles.
    If the Democrats are against something this much we need to be for it just as much.
     

    Ingomike

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    Democrat donor's,
    Democrat voters are being mobilized to vote for Haley in the Republicans primaries.

    They are attacking Trump from all angles.
    If the Democrats are against something this much we need to be for it just as much.
    It also has the effect of making Trump spend to continue the primary process taking money that could be used in the general election…
     

    HKFaninCarmel

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    It also has the effect of making Trump spend to continue the primary process taking money that could be used in the general election…
    Pretty early in the process to make that complaint. If he’s as obvious as you guys make him out to be, you should have no problems. After Super Tuesday, if she’s in and barely getting votes, this appears more valid.

    She still has an argument-
     
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