Plaxico B.
I'd stick with your first sentence. Why waste effort with these meat heads. Plaxico Burress's episode with a mishandled gun is right up there with OJ mishandling getting his "Stuff" back...:yesway:
Nope have not used those. Your Price sounds good.. I have used CCI/Blazer Brass .45 ACP 230gr FMJ purchased at Walmart for 12.95/50. They worked great!