China's souce code demand

[T.Lex]

Surprised this isn't bigger news.
BBC News - US tech firms ask China to postpone 'intrusive' rules

US business groups are seeking "urgent discussions" over new Chinese rules requiring foreign firms to hand over source code and other measures.
...
The groups said that the rules would force technology sellers to create backdoors for the Chinese government, adopt Chinese encryption algorithms and disclose sensitive intellectual property.

Firms planning to sell computer equipment to Chinese banks would also have to set up research and development centres in the country, get permits for workers servicing technology equipment and build "ports" which enable Chinese officials to manage and monitor data processed by their hardware, Reuters reported.

USian coverage
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/29/t...ules-perturb-western-tech-companies.html&_r=1

 

[Mr Evilwrench]

Man, their .gov is almost as bad as ours, they're just not so sneaky and slimy about it.

 

[edporch]

This is just another ploy for Red China to steal technology and know how from the free world.
Then eventually turn around with "their own" products to sell internationally.

 

[HoughMade]

This is just another ploy for Red China to steal technology and know how from the free world.
Then eventually turn around with "their own" products to sell internationally.

Nawww

 

[GunSlinger]

I'd say give it to them. Just include our own backdoors as well. Not that we actually need them.

 

[rob63]

I pretty much think that any business that is dumb enough to go along with it deserves what they get. Nonetheless, I don't doubt there will be some that go along with it anyway for the short-term profits, with a lot of gnashing of teeth to follow.

The funny thing is that you can sympathise with the Chinese position too, the current situation leaves them open to NSA intrusions.

 

[T.Lex]

Washington Post, so...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...49ffa6-fc57-11e7-9b5d-bbf0da31214d_story.html

I had a friend who had a significant joint venture in China years ago. He was comfortable that they were being left alone at the time, partly because their product was needed and profitable... and pretty non-controversial. But, he always worried at some level about the government getting more involved like this.

 

[HoughMade]

Washington Post, so...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...49ffa6-fc57-11e7-9b5d-bbf0da31214d_story.html

I had a friend who had a significant joint venture in China years ago. He was comfortable that they were being left alone at the time, partly because their product was needed and profitable... and pretty non-controversial. But, he always worried at some level about the government getting more involved like this.

Maybe the ingenuity and industrious entrepreneurship of the people have lulled us into forgetting that the government is Communist and always willing to flex its totalitarian leanings when deemed advantageous.

 

[T.Lex]

Maybe the ingenuity and industrious entrepreneurship of the people have lulled us into forgetting that the government is Communist and always willing to flex its totalitarian leanings when deemed advantageous.

That and money.

For a long time - and maybe still - the money that can be made over there is magnetic. Compromise of political ideals in favor of lucre isn't exactly new.

 

[Thor]

There are many kinds of warfare, economic is one of them. The ChiComs are our enemies.

 

[IndyDave1776]

There are many kinds of warfare, economic is one of them. The ChiComs are our enemies.

 

[Leadeye]

Doesn't surprise me at all, china insists on having closed R&D in china producing products that aren't available anywhere else. Akzo, a Dutch chemical company, makes products there that were developed in china for chinese furniture manufacturers and can't be sold outside of china. It's a one way street.

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/repression-export-01172018101604.html


China Seeks to Export Growing Repression, Lack of Freedom at Home: Freedom House


The ruling Chinese Communist Party under President Xi Jinping has become “increasingly repressive,” amid ever-tightening controls on the media, online speech, religious groups, and civil society, according to an annual report from U.S.-based freedom-of-speech watchdog Freedom House.

China’s president “is consolidating personal power to a degree not seen in China for decades,” amid ongoing arrests and criminal prosecutions of bloggers, activists, human rights lawyers, and religious believers, the report found.

Xi’s “new era,” will bring with it further increases in party controls over information, society, culture, the military, and the economy, the report said, adding that the president’s emphasis on a growing international role for China means the likely export of authoritarian ideology to other developing countries.

 

[Thor]

Yeah SLD, that's what it means. Xi is the new Mao, he's being addressed as that in his country, his thought is the next big thing in Chinese Doctrine. I expect there will be little books, conformist uniforms and millions of deaths; they just might not all be Chinese this time. The Belt and Road initiative has huge hooks attached to it: security, support, supplies...sending money back to China. Hundreds of countries are involved...only a few have figured out that their sovereignty is at stake.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

didnt our .gov put backdoors in our networking equipment too?