Just watched "Remington Under Fire"

[redwingshooter]

So I just watched a documentary called "Remington Under Fire" on CNBC that aired in 2010. Basically it summarized people that have claimed that the Remington 700 fired without the trigger being pulled. There was video evidence of this happening and numerous accounts of people being shot. The whole time I was thinking that all these accidental shootings were caused by violating rule 1, "Never point a gun at anything you don't want destroyed". In any case, I was wondering what experiences others have had with the Remington 700? I have one myself, though I have not shot it extensively. I have never had the gun "go off" without pulling the trigger. Has anyone experienced a discharge with the Remington 700 without pulling the trigger? I was just curious to hear other people's opinions and experiences.

 

[phylodog]

Remington did a rebuttal video that was very well made. I've never had one go off unintended but then again I don't allow mine to get rusty, filled with dirt or debris or let unqualified folks tinker with my triggers.

 

[Wild Deuce]

The most important point in Remington's rebuttal that has gone unanswered (as far as I know) by CNBC is that every rifle that has malfunctioned, was tinkered with in some fashion prior to the unintended discharge.

 

[shooter1054]

I may be too cynical, but I tend to believe that there are 3 side to this: CNBC's truth, Remington's truth, and what really happened. I think CNBC has an agenda. I think Remington has a business to run and keep profits up, and I think the truth of the matter lies somewhere inbetween. I don't think the 700's "just go off" as often as CNBC claim nor as rarely as Remington claims. JMHO. I could be wrong.

 

[Gunaria]

Seen it awhile back. Yes it's very sad what happened to that kid BUT ALWAYS point your firearams in a safe direction!

 

[buford t justice]

The interview with Mike walker to me was the only credible part of the show.

It is entirely possible that some guns have gone off without touching the trigger,but what was this mother doing pointing a gun at her child?

 

[redwingshooter]

I may be too cynical, but I tend to believe that there are 3 side to this: CNBC's truth, Remington's truth, and what really happened. I think CNBC has an agenda. I think Remington has a business to run and keep profits up, and I think the truth of the matter lies somewhere inbetween. I don't think the 700's "just go off" as often as CNBC claim nor as rarely as Remington claims. JMHO. I could be wrong.

This is pretty much what I was thinking. I thought the documentary seemed really biased. I did not know that there was a rebuttal video put up by Remington, I'll have to look around to see if I can find it as I'd be interested in watching it. I also agree with the rest of you that the real problem is people not obeying common gun safety dogma, which is don't point the rifle at anyone/anything you don't want destroyed.

 

[IndySSD]

This is pretty much what I was thinking. I thought the documentary seemed really biased. I did not know that there was a rebuttal video put up by Remington, I'll have to look around to see if I can find it as I'd be interested in watching it. I also agree with the rest of you that the real problem is people not obeying common gun safety dogma, which is don't point the rifle at anyone/anything you don't want destroyed.

Yeah... so.... Remington 700's are very dangerous things and in order to help you keep you and your loved ones safe I'm willing to take any/all of them that you may own off your hands and make sure they are never a threat to your safety again...

 

[gunman41mag]

My 700 are all well trained to fired only when the trigger is pulled

 

[03A3]

In the past I've dinked with Remington triggers and had them to the point that they would go off if you just slightly raised the bolt handle. The same with Timney triggers.
I'm suprised that Remington still makes a trigger that is so easily adjustable.
You really need to know what you're doing if you adjust one. At the time I didn't, and most other people don't either. That's when the problems start.

 

[mattdennis3]

I may be too cynical, but I tend to believe that there are 3 side to this: CNBC's truth, Remington's truth, and what really happened. I think CNBC has an agenda. I think Remington has a business to run and keep profits up, and I think the truth of the matter lies somewhere inbetween. I don't think the 700's "just go off" as often as CNBC claim nor as rarely as Remington claims. JMHO. I could be wrong.

Agreed. The real story is buried in the weeds between the two sides. You can see remington's rebuttal and other videos here.

Remington® Model 700™ Network: Video Library

 

[Shoots4Fun]

I am sure there are two sides, but in my opinion, Remington should have spent the money to make the inexpensive and appropriate changes a long time ago.

I have heard of many people who defend and love their 700, I respect that, but personally I do not plan to own one. There are many weapons that do not have the same controversy that are equally effective.

My ...

 

[redwingshooter]

Agreed. The real story is buried in the weeds between the two sides. You can see remington's rebuttal and other videos here.

Remington® Model 700™ Network: Video Library

Thanks for posting the link, I'm going to have to check that out.

 

[dbd870]

I may be too cynical, but I tend to believe that there are 3 side to this: CNBC's truth, Remington's truth, and what really happened. I think CNBC has an agenda. I think Remington has a business to run and keep profits up, and I think the truth of the matter lies somewhere inbetween. I don't think the 700's "just go off" as often as CNBC claim nor as rarely as Remington claims. JMHO. I could be wrong.

Same here as well.

 

[gglass]

I am sure there are two sides, but in my opinion, Remington should have spent the money to make the inexpensive and appropriate changes a long time ago.

I have heard of many people who defend and love their 700, I respect that, but personally I do not plan to own one. There are many weapons that do not have the same controversy that are equally effective.

My ...

So what you are saying is that you really think there is only one side to the story.

You may want to rent a Michael Moore film to balance out your opinions on a few other subjects.

My

 

[gglass]

I am sure there are two sides, but in my opinion, Remington should have spent the money to make the inexpensive and appropriate changes a long time ago.

I have heard of many people who defend and love their 700, I respect that, but personally I do not plan to own one. There are many weapons that do not have the same controversy that are equally effective.

My ...

So what you are saying is that you really think there is only one side to the story.

You may want to rent a Michael Moore film to get both sides of other stories, and balance out your opinions on a few other subjects.

My

 

[steve666]

Makes me glad I favor rifles with Mauser actions.

 

[Leo]

No problems with Winchester model 70's either.