M&P .45 trigger job

[notoriousjmc]

Has anyone out there used the apex trigger kit for their m&p .45? I love the gun but am having a heck of a time getting an accurate grouping. Not a huge fan of the trigger

 

[esrice]

An Apex trigger will definitely smooth up the trigger action and give you a nice clean break and crisp reset. But it won't help you with the shooter issues.

 

[notoriousjmc]

That's mostly what I am concerned with. The shooter issues seem to be gum specific believe it or not. I don't have this problem with Amy other pistol but this .45 is a bear for me for some reason.

 

[RobbyMaQ]

Different backstrap size perhaps? if you haven't tried that already.

 

[Mango]

A file, a dremel with a polish pad, and a couple of hours will do wonders on most smiths. I've got a brand new M&P 45 that I'll be spending some quality time with soon.

 

[notoriousjmc]

Yeah one tried all 3 diff size backstraps. I'm going with the middle one. The trigger and reset just seem lack luster...great gun but am unhappy with trigger pull

 

[notoriousjmc]

Reset is also almost non existant. Mango what r u referring to ?

 

[chezuki]

Reset is also almost non existant. Mango what r u referring to ?

What are you used to? If you want a Glockish "click" reset, get the Apex RAM. I thought I wanted this, but got used to the reset in my M&P with a DCAEK and actually prefer it now.

 

[notoriousjmc]

I like a reset I can at least feel.. Glocks resets are nice and loud but I slid like springfields resets. I can hardly even feel much less hear this one.

 

[David]

An Apex hard sear took about 2 1/2 pounds off my trigger pull, some polishing on the FPB smoothed out the take up very nicely. I hated the trigger on my M&P 45 when I got it, i'm pretty happy with it now.

 

[Mango]

Reset is also almost non existant. Mango what r u referring to ?

Detail strip the gun and do your own trigger job. It's all out on YouTube and it just takes a little time and patience.

 

[chezuki]

Detail strip the gun and do your own trigger job. It's all out on YouTube and it just takes a little time and patience.

Are you recommending that someone, of whom you have no knowledge of their skill level, file and dremel the internal workings of their pistol?

 

[Exodus]

Are you recommending that someone, of whom you have no knowledge of their skill level, file and dremel the internal workings of their pistol?

How hard can it be? Watch this!

 

[notoriousjmc]

Awesome, that's the answer I was looking for . Thank u all

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

I have the DCAEK kit and the aluminum trigger in my M&P 45 full size. Great improvement in take-up and reset and the new trigger is 10x beter than stock. I also had Ameriglo I-Dot night sights put on and it is very accurate. Even thiugh I've only had it about a year I shoot it a lot better with it than I do my Glocks.

 

[PGRChaplain]

Let me make a Point here, Never, Ever use power tools (Dremmel) on trigger parts. Emmery Cloth, a Hard Arkansas Stone and some Patience are the required materials for the Trigger Job. A file (fine) may be used in place of the Dremmel.

 

[bowtie]

You sure your not limp wristing it? Next time we go shooting let me try her out and see what I can do

 

[Mango]

Let me make a Point here, Never, Ever use power tools (Dremmel) on trigger parts. Emmery Cloth, a Hard Arkansas Stone and some Patience are the required materials for the Trigger Job. A file (fine) may be used in place of the Dremmel.

I know where your coming from, but I'm not grinding with a dremel. I'm buffing and polishing. I'm also working very slowly with multiple test fits. The dremel isn't used to lighten, it's used to reduce grit. And it works for me.

I was probably wrong to suggest to the OP that he does the same, I made an assumption about his level of knowledge, skill, and mechanical inclination. That was an error.

Apex makes great stuff, I decided to use them on my M&P. I did my own on a sw40ve and turned that turd of a trigger in to something useable.

 

[gregkl]

Instead of starting a new but similar thread, I'll jump on this one.

I have M&P 9 with the Apex USB and the AEK trigger. Rest is factory. I installed the USB, no problems and it took away the gritty feel.

Then I installed the AEK, followed Randy's video and had a dead trigger. Talked on the phone with Apex and they walked me through opening up the trigger loop more(about .045" now). Dry fired fine but at the range today I shot about 65 rounds and had several dead trigger malfunctions. Usually it occurred on the first shot of the magazine.

Given that background I am debating the following:
1. Keep working with it.
2. Send it to Apex and ask them to just do whatever it needs to make it right.
3. Find someone in IN that can work on them and set the pistol up to run nice.
4. Send it to some M&P expert gunsmith in another part of the country that is renown for making magic with these pistols.

BTW, I am not gunsmith, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

Seriously I am very mechanically inclined, patient, perfectionistic but I also recognize that often it is the little nuances that separate the pros' from the amateurs.

 

[drillsgt]

M&P .45's have ridiculously heavy triggers, the Apex parts in mine made it much much better and more shootable.