A big thumbs up to Brad (and Knife Lady) on a killer new ESEE 4. Brad could not have been any nicer and better to deal with. As I had never handled (fondled) one of these beasts before, he was nice enough to bring several for me to look at. I could not get over how massive the 5 was and I ended up going with the 4. Just a heads up and a reminder to support such great INGO members!