Personal Defense Ammo - Super Golden Sabre?

[edsinger]

Ok I am not the smartest guy on this but, I like Golden Sabre's. I really do but I have since decided through my own research that I would prefer HST's as my carry rounds.

Now I have many (3 calibers), as can be seen here I have many types.

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...9mm_personal_defense_and_other_ammo_list.html

Are these new , just simple new boxes to market the 'new' rounds to Metrosexuals or what? Are they different? Are they better? Are they just the same darn good bullet repackaged for the new yuppie buyers?

I mean these are still really good rounds,

So now they come out with these?

Same stuff but new marketing right?


Well what about a another competitor, that I also like..

Ah well it is moot Remington, I know have found my favorite round in 9mm..

The thought of these in 9mm, 147 Gr, +p is just wicked!

And for $28 per 50, Remington you need to do better, get some new Marketing etc......YOUR LOSING....

Ammunition To Go : 50rds - 9mm Federal LE Tactical HST 147gr. +P HP Ammo [P9HST4] - $27.95

 

[ngroark]

any rec for .40 s&w carry rounds?

 

[edsinger]

any rec for .40 s&w carry rounds?

I would recommend HST for any caliber. Actually, the HST .40 is what the FBI chose (I think) after all the testing.

Most of them are great rounds, Hornady, Magtech, DPX etc etc. Its a great market for these guys and to be honest, my feeling is that the differences between all of them are in percentages of single digits for the most part.

As most will say, shot placement and practice are key. But why not place the best with practice also?

Just for my own sanity, I wanted what I felt to be the best. I read read and read some more and concluded that HST's were it. Then I tried to find them. That is when I knew they were different, because they were very tough to find. I have been looking for 9mm for at least 2 years. I had just lucked into some 45 in 2010, and kicked myself for not buying both boxes.

There now becoming available, so that is good.

Do some research and choose what you think is best, you really cant go wrong, but HST would be my recommendation. Highest Grain with +p speed.

 

[Disposable Heart]

I would recommend HST for any caliber. Actually, the HST .40 is what the FBI chose (I think) after all the testing.

Last time I checked, they chose Winny Ranger Bonded...

 

[edsinger]

One of them agencies chose the HST, It has been 2 years since I read it. Rangers are not bad rounds either for that matter.....

 

[cosermann]

Are these new , just simple new boxes to market the 'new' rounds to Metrosexuals or what? Are they different? Are they better?
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Word is (straight from Remington, btw), that they're just Golden Saber in a fancy new box (and at an inflated price). Nothing to see here. Move along. See the following thread on, wait for it, INGO!

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...timate_home_defense_ammo_vs_golden_saber.html


Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo

 

[edsinger]

Copy that! I thought so......

 

[Disposable Heart]

One of them agencies chose the HST, It has been 2 years since I read it. Rangers are not bad rounds either for that matter.....

Which agency? Maybe not the FBI... I do know that the ICE chose the 135gr Winchester stuff, before dumping it for something else (thus the glut of it on the market now).

 

[GARANDGUY]

I like the HSTs and its what I was carrying in my EDC until I switched out to the Hornandy Critical Defense loads. You should try them out!!!!!

 

[edsinger]

I like the HSTs and its what I was carrying in my EDC until I switched out to the Hornandy Critical Defense loads. You should try them out!!!!!

I have them also , just like HST's more for some reason.

 

[45fan]

I have tried the Golden Sabers in .45 ACP, and although accurate, and powerful, the bullets that I recovered were less than spectacular. The jackets separated almost instantly, and the rest is just a soft lead mushroom that opened up and broke apart. Shooting into water, wet phone books, and clay, same results, just different penetration.
The Federal HSTs and hydroshocks are my favorite, followed by Gold dots, the deciding factors being price and availability.

 

[thescrambler]

I carry remington golden saber 180 grainss

 

[edsinger]

Got my HST's today........$27 for 50, what a deal! Now 9mm is Covered! Filled in 2 rows, 124G +p and 147G +p............sweet

https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...9mm_personal_defense_and_other_ammo_list.html

 

[MtnBiker6510]

I carry a .40S&W so I choose the Winchester Ranger 135gr JHP. I've read good things about the Rangers and that grain/bullet combo

 

[J K Porter]

The key here is to put whatever is leaving the barrel where it needs to go.
FMJ, Hollow point, Soft nose, Cast lead or whatever.
If you can't put it where it needs to go bullet choice means nothing.
For true self defence you won't be shooting more than maybe 12 feet. Properly placed from 12 feet any caliber with any bullet will get the job done.