SCOTUS case could remove corporate immunity from drug makers

[rambone]

This Supreme Court case could destroy the corporate immunity that Pharmaceutical companies receive, when their products kill people. Vaccines maim and kill thousands of people annually and our fascist government protects them from all liability. The fact that the Government compels people by law to inject these concoctions into their bodies makes their legal-immunity all the more evil.

Supreme Court Case Challenges Drug Maker Immunity from Vaccine Lawsuits

 

[dross]

This Supreme Court case could destroy the corporate immunity that Pharmaceutical companies receive, when their products kill people. Vaccines maim and kill thousands of people annually and our fascist government protects them from all liability. The fact that the Government compels people by law to inject these concoctions into their bodies makes their legal-immunity all the more evil.

Supreme Court Case Challenges Drug Maker Immunity from Vaccine Lawsuits

While not an expert on the matter, I've looked into the vaccine issue, and while I respect your opinion, you write as if the matter is completely settled, and vaccines are just dangerous and not helpful.

I believe that in matters where the government has stepped in and regulated, companies who are regulated should be protectected from civil action unless they defrauded the government regulators.

 

[rambone]

Shall I begin with illustrating why vaccines are dangerous, or why it is evil for the government to mandate these potentially life-changing or life-ending shots?

Even if ONLY one in a gazillion people were killed from a "mandatory" vaccine reaction, it would still be immoral and patently wrong for Government to discard their death as collateral damage for the greater good.

If the government didn't subsidize these shots and force them on servicemen and public school children, this would be a different story. Lots of modern medicine kills people. Take chemotherapy and radiation for instance...

 

[ATOMonkey]

Government can mandate it all they want, but it's in return for government service.

If you don't go to public school or join the military, you never have to have a shot a day in your life.

Also, by removing immunity, the incentive to release a drug to the market drops to just about zero. No more clinical trials, no more experimental drugs for the terminally ill. Forget about it.

This will be one of those instances were a law is passed to benefit a few and hurts many.

 

[WWIIIDefender]

Government can mandate it all they want, but it's in return for government service.

If you don't go to public school or join the military, you never have to have a shot a day in your life.

Also, by removing immunity, the incentive to release a drug to the market drops to just about zero. No more clinical trials, no more experimental drugs for the terminally ill. Forget about it.

This will be one of those instances were a law is passed to benefit a few and hurts many.

Obamacare will change that, soon you won't be able to get any care unless your fully vaccinated.

 

[rambone]

One of the Justices sold his shares in Big Pharma before hearing the case yesterday. Conflicts of interest, abound.


Chief Justice Roberts Sells Pfizer Shares Before Landmark Product Safety Case

 

[Ogre]

Government can mandate it all they want, but it's in return for government service.

If you don't go to public school or join the military, you never have to have a shot a day in your life.

Also, by removing immunity, the incentive to release a drug to the market drops to just about zero. No more clinical trials, no more experimental drugs for the terminally ill. Forget about it.

This will be one of those instances were a law is passed to benefit a few and hurts many.

THIS ^^^

 

[radonc73]

Sure what is wrong with polio making an even bigger comeback than it is now? What about antibiotics? People are allergic to some sulfides and alot get reactions from PCN should we not look for better antibiotics? What about NSAIDS that help 99% of people with RA? Because they may lead to increased risk of heart attacks should we just take away the rights of the 99% who are willing to take the risk with their own bodies to try to live as normal a life as possible?

 

[rambone]

Government can mandate it all they want, but it's in return for government service.

If you don't go to public school or join the military, you never have to have a shot a day in your life.

Does this not outrage you? Fascist Government-run health care at its finest.

Billion Dollar Profit Scheme
1. Make laws that make school attendance mandatory.
2. Make laws that mandate vaccines for public school attendance.
3. Make laws that prevent vaccine-injury victims from taking recourse.
4. ?????
5. Profit!!

The same scheme can be made regarding people forced by law to join the military during the draft. I think it is morally wrong and patently unconstitutional to mandate vaccines of any kind.

 

[radonc73]

You can alrays homeschool and avoid them all togather.

 

[rambone]

You can alrays homeschool and avoid them all togather.

That's tough to do if you are a single parent working 2 jobs. These laws are morally, ethically, and constitutionally wrong.

 

[ATOMonkey]

Does this not outrage you? Fascist Government-run health care at its finest.

Billion Dollar Profit Scheme
1. Make laws that make school attendance mandatory.
2. Make laws that mandate vaccines for public school attendance.
3. Make laws that protect vaccine victims from recourse.
4. ?????
5. Profit!!

The same scheme can be made regarding people forced by law to join the military during the draft. I think it is morally wrong and patently unconstitutional to mandate vaccines of any kind.

Life is all about incentives. The government doesn't force you to enroll your children in public school. You can enroll them in perochial school if home school is not an option. I'm sure you can find a church that doesn't require vaccine records somewhere.

I do find mandatory enrollment to be beyond the pale, but it is what it is, and it's easy enough to work around. Once all the low hanging fruit is gone, we can tackle that one.

I completely disagree with forced service of any kind. If your country is so crappy that it takes conscription to defend it, then you should probably just throw in the towel.

 

[radonc73]

They would probably get a better education at a perochial school at least not have to deal with as many other kids that do not want to be in school.

 

[rambone]

The government doesn't force you to enroll your children in public school. You can enroll them in parochial school if home school is not an option. I'm sure you can find a church that doesn't require vaccine records somewhere.

They would probably get a better education at a perochial school at least not have to deal with as many other kids that do not want to be in school.

I am all for private parochial schools. I went to one. It was expensive and did require vaccination, which I did receive as a kid. My parents had not yet seen first hand what vaccines can do, so it was not an issue they considered at the time. Today we all feel differently.

Now short of the chance of finding a very affordable parochial school nearby that does not require vaccinations; the government is still forcing something inherently dangerous into the vast majority our children. Going to private school is just not an option for everyone, not in this socialist society. Most people are stuck with the "public option."

 

[alfahornet]

Shall I begin with illustrating why vaccines are dangerous, or why it is evil for the government to mandate these potentially life-changing or life-ending shots?

Even if ONLY one in a gazillion people were killed from a "mandatory" vaccine reaction, it would still be immoral and patently wrong for Government to discard their death as collateral damage for the greater good.

If the government didn't subsidize these shots and force them on servicemen and public school children, this would be a different story. Lots of modern medicine kills people. Take chemotherapy and radiation for instance...

If you join the military, you voluntarily give up certain freedoms. It is a service to your country that may require some personal sacrifices. If the brass and burocracy determines that the vaccines aid in ensuring readiness and increase the effectiveness of the armed forces and so be it, you signed up (or where drafted) into the service.

In regards to public schools. How many kids would get sick or die if they weren't vaccinated and exposed to a disease. Think of small pox, vaccination aided in erradicating the disease (except for a small number of research labs.)

I am not advocating that every vaccination is good or safe for every one, or every vaccinations should be forced onto people but I do believe that some vaccinations are necessary or helpful for the safe and smooth operations of today's society. And in regards to the pharma industry I am personally disgusted by the huge profits and the high cost of medication but there needs to be some incentive for them to develop and come up with new more effective drugs and vaccines, and if government regulation requires some limited immunity than so be it. I am not an expert on the subject matter but taking an unreasonable selfish hardline approach to the matter and not be willing to look at how it affects others, I don't believe is the right approach.