Trusts and Corporations now to be part of background checks

[gunworks321]

Didn't see this elsewhere.

Here Are the Specific Executive Actions Obama Will Take to ?Reduce Gun Violence? | TheBlaze.com

Key words here are: "... people trying to buy some of the most dangerous weapons and other items through a trust or corporation"

So now an ATF tax stamp wait isn't enough? Kind of thought that was a background check.

 

[indyjohn]

Never in any of the research I have done on Trusts did I find a statement that a background check would NOT be performed on the person writing the check.

 

[SSGSAD]

So, I thought we all had a background check, every time we bought a gun .....

So is anything new, actually happening ?????

Can someone break it down, to something we can understand ?????

 

[KUJO2388]

I just picked up my suppressor today. I used a trust and I still filled out a 4473 and they ran a check on my name. Same as with a weapon.

I have been waiting to see how everything plays out. I think I am going to suck it up and buy an Osprey 45 and submit stamps for 1 SBR and 2 more Form 1 Suppressors.

Who knows of a shop close to Terre Haute that has the Osprey in stock?

 

[MontereyC6]

I just picked up my suppressor today. I used a trust and I still filled out a 4473 and they ran a check on my name. Same as with a weapon.

I have been waiting to see how everything plays out. I think I am going to suck it up and buy an Osprey 45 and submit stamps for 1 SBR and 2 more Form 1 Suppressors.

Who knows of a shop close to Terre Haute that has the Osprey in stock?

When you pick up a Form 4 from a dealer, they have you fill out the 4473 for their records, they aren't required to call it in.

 

[M67]

When you pick up a Form 4 from a dealer, they have you fill out the 4473 for their records, they aren't required to call it in.

For a trust they are, been that way for over a year now I think. Shows that the person who is picking up the item is indeed a proper person

 

[indyjohn]

When you pick up a Form 4 from a dealer, they have you fill out the 4473 for their records, they aren't required to call it in.

For a trust they are, been that way for over a year now I think. Shows that the person who is picking up the item is indeed a proper person

So, if the dealer doesn't know who they're dealing with, what percentage do you believe ARE NOT called in?

 

[IndyGunSafety]

For a trust they are, been that way for over a year now I think. Shows that the person who is picking up the item is indeed a proper person

Could you cite the regulation please?

 

[M67]

So, if the dealer doesn't know who they're dealing with, what percentage do you believe ARE NOT called in?

Probably a very good amount of them. When I picked up a can last year at a dealer in Indy I filled out the 4473 and I was handed my can. I asked them are they sure they don't want to call it in, since I used my trust they needed to, and they said that no form 4s require the 4473 to be called in. I didn't want them getting in trouble during their next audit, but they still didn't call me in.

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2014/05/does-a-trust-need-a-nics-check.html

Asked an ATF agent the same question too a while ago and said the same thing. Trusts need to be called in, individuals don't. But you know the consistency in ATF.....

 

[Punkinhead]

I just picked up my suppressor today. I used a trust and I still filled out a 4473 and they ran a check on my name. Same as with a weapon.

I have been waiting to see how everything plays out. I think I am going to suck it up and buy an Osprey 45 and submit stamps for 1 SBR and 2 more Form 1 Suppressors.

Who knows of a shop close to Terre Haute that has the Osprey in stock?

I made my own suppressors under a trust. No background checks.

 

[Thegeek]

I think it means all named in the trust need a background check. If the grantor pays for, and takes possession of, is background checked, crazy uncle Joey on the trust is not and may not be able to pass the BGC on his own.

So, you put yourself and one other on the trust. Get your items, then add them to the trust. Great work government... you solved nothing.