Coal jobs coming back

[AmmoManAaron]

As a geologist, this is just one of many that I'm aware of.

"Pennsylvania’s Corsa Coal plans to open its second new coal mine since President Trump took office, with CEO George Dethlefsen saying that “the war on coal is over” and that there is a “direct link” between the President’s policies and the company’s decision."

MAGA

Pennsylvania coal company to open second mine since Trump took office | Fox News

 

[KLB]

Coal power plants are good for my company.

 

[SSGSAD]

Something else, Pres., Trump, has done, and he won't get ANY credit from the "left" .....

MORE JOBS !!!!!

 

[actaeon277]

Steel requires coal. Lots of it.

 

[Leadeye]

Electricity from coal runs things in my house just fine.

 

[amboy49]

Bringing back some jobs in the coal industry will have some benefits to the unemployed in the short run - but what is really killing the coal industry is not the environmentalists. Simple logic dictates that the evolution of natural gas exploration and the subsequent discovery of vast areas of gas fields in Texas, Louisiana, the Gulf, and other locations has resulted in the glut of natural gas in the U.S. As a result, The U.S. is expected to reach energy self sufficiency within the next two years. Coal will still be needed for coal fired generation to supply electrical energy in the short run, but many, if not most, coal plants are being converted to combined cycle operations and with natural gas prices predicted to remain historically low for the distant future, coal will not be the primary fuel for electric generation.

If the US can figure out a way to compete with foreign steel then coal may regain some semblance of market share. Until then, short term gains in the coal industry will be only that - short term gains.

 

[Denny347]

 

[actaeon277]

Bringing back some jobs in the coal industry will have some benefits to the unemployed in the short run - but what is really killing the coal industry is not the environmentalists. Simple logic dictates that the evolution of natural gas exploration and the subsequent discovery of vast areas of gas fields in Texas, Louisiana, the Gulf, and other locations has resulted in the glut of natural gas in the U.S. As a result, The U.S. is expected to reach energy self sufficiency within the next two years. Coal will still be needed for coal fired generation to supply electrical energy in the short run, but many, if not most, coal plants are being converted to combined cycle operations and with natural gas prices predicted to remain historically low for the distant future, coal will not be the primary fuel for electric generation.

If the US can figure out a way to compete with foreign steel then coal may regain some semblance of market share. Until then, short term gains in the coal industry will be only that - short term gains.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/update/resource_use.php#tabs_spot-2
Even with natural gas historically low, it is still higher than coal (per MWH).
Coal and NG are neck and neck for fuel sources, so I'm not sure how you can say it will not be the primary fuel. It is a primary fuel.

As for steel, we do compete. But many foreign steel mills get $$$ from their governments to lower the cost of steel. Our system is not supposed to give money to industry.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

I take it you are not familiar with the next generation of coal fired plants that utilize coal gasification? Coal usage does not necessarily mean old technology. Duke built a big one in Edwardsport, IN and is currently working the bugs out. They've invested over 1 billion $ in that plant and they wouldn't be doing that if they thought coal didn't have a future. A lot of older small plants are being shut down, which isn't a good sign, but it also doesn't mean the end of coal fired electricity generation when new tech is being developed at the same time.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

More food for thought:

U.S. Energy Department study says more coal, nuclear needed to secure grid | Reuters

 

[KLB]

Fun fact. Depending upon where you live, if you have a home built in the last 20-30 years your walls could be made from a byproduct of cleaning coal electrical plants.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

Fun fact. Depending upon where you live, if you have a home built in the last 20-30 years your walls could be made from a byproduct of cleaning coal electrical plants.

Basically yes. Limestone is ground up to a fine powder, mixed with water to make a slurry, the slurry is sprayed into the smoke stack exhaust stream as a fine mist. As the flue gases pass through the mist, a chemical reaction occurs which removes the sulfur dioxides and trioxides and forms a precipitate that collects at the bottom in a catch basin. The precipitate is essentially a chemically pure form of gypsum. The synthetic gypsum is then sold on the open market with the likes of USG and National Gypsum purchasing it to make wallboard. The development of this technology was a big win for everyone. Cleaner air and water (sulfur dioxides and trioxides make acid rain) and a useful, saleable end product. Here in the Hoosier State, the whole process is essentially self contained. Indiana coal, Indiana limestone, used in Indiana generating stations, and the synthetic gypsum sold to Indiana wall board plants (USG and National Gypsum in Shoals, Indiana for example).

 

[BobDaniels]

Basically yes. Limestone is ground up to a fine powder, mixed with water to make a slurry, the slurry is sprayed into the smoke stack exhaust stream as a fine mist. As the flue gases pass through the mist, a chemical reaction occurs which removes the sulfur dioxides and trioxides and forms a precipitate that collects at the bottom in a catch basin. The precipitate is essentially a chemically pure form of gypsum. The synthetic gypsum is then sold on the open market with the likes of USG and National Gypsum purchasing it to make wallboard. The development of this technology was a big win for everyone. Cleaner air and water (sulfur dioxides and trioxides make acid rain) and a useful, saleable end product. Here in the Hoosier State, the whole process is essentially self contained. Indiana coal, Indiana limestone, used in Indiana generating stations, and the synthetic gypsum sold to Indiana wall board plants (USG and National Gypsum in Shoals, Indiana for example).

I had no idea about this and find it quite fascinating. Thank you for the education.

 

[HoughMade]

Damn free market and innovation. We have to put a stop to that ASAP....said the leftists.

 

[miguel]

<bullhorn voice>
What do we want?

COAL MINING!!!

When do we want it?

NOW!!!

</bullhorn voice>

...

There is a way to American energy independence and coal is its prophet

 

[indiucky]

[video=youtube;kIZAnEJRV3M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIZAnEJRV3M[/video]

 

[HoughMade]

[video=youtube;jIfu2A0ezq0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0[/video]

 

[indiucky]

[video=youtube;ms79633njIg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms79633njIg[/video]

 

[Jludo]

I'd prefer a resurgence in nuclear,

 

[KLB]

Basically yes. Limestone is ground up to a fine powder, mixed with water to make a slurry, the slurry is sprayed into the smoke stack exhaust stream as a fine mist. As the flue gases pass through the mist, a chemical reaction occurs which removes the sulfur dioxides and trioxides and forms a precipitate that collects at the bottom in a catch basin. The precipitate is essentially a chemically pure form of gypsum. The synthetic gypsum is then sold on the open market with the likes of USG and National Gypsum purchasing it to make wallboard. The development of this technology was a big win for everyone. Cleaner air and water (sulfur dioxides and trioxides make acid rain) and a useful, saleable end product. Here in the Hoosier State, the whole process is essentially self contained. Indiana coal, Indiana limestone, used in Indiana generating stations, and the synthetic gypsum sold to Indiana wall board plants (USG and National Gypsum in Shoals, Indiana for example).

Yep. East Chicago too.