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  1. #3641
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    Wearing a MAGA hat in America is like wearing a yellow Star of David in Nazi Germany.
    It makes you a target for socialist thugs.
    The wild dogs cry out in the night as they grow restless, longing for some solitary company.

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    Thought you was near pitchin' a tent and settin' up housekeeping there on that first step.

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    I am not convinced from the information given that it was in fact a hate crime. No information was given regarding the altercation preceding the vehicular attack. It is entirely possible that hostilities were focused on some entirely different issue.
    Government and pedophiles both practice buggering those powerless to defend themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    Wearing a MAGA hat in America is like wearing a yellow Star of David in Nazi Germany.
    It makes you a target for socialist thugs.
    That pretty well sums it up
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyDave1776 View Post
    I am not convinced from the information given that it was in fact a hate crime. No information was given regarding the altercation preceding the vehicular attack. It is entirely possible that hostilities were focused on some entirely different issue.
    Prosecutors argued Courtier was motivated by his white supremacist beliefs — saying he was a member of the European Kindred white supremacist prison gang and was wearing the gang's logo on his baseball cap and had its tattoo on his leg when he encountered Bruce.


    I've never heard of "Euorpean Kindred" but if it's true that he belongs to it, and it is indeed a white supremacy group (the name kinda strongly implies that it is), and he has some kind of legit justification for running that guy over, it really is a horrible coincidence that this White Supremacist happened to run down and kill a black person. For statistical purposes I don't have a problem with them classifying the motive as hate crime. It's in the FBI NIBRS system for a long time as a way to categorize such things for statistical purposes. Not fond of "hate crime" laws as such. But nevertheless, if it wasn't self defense, and it doesn't sound like this was, the sentence seems just to me without the superfluous "hate crime" label attached. You don't just get to just run people over and kill them.
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    Well Crap!
    I guess I should have my tattoo removed now - KILL SMURFS
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    "Don't be afraid of the enemy! Remember the Lord, who is great and awesome, and fight for your brothers, your sons, your daughters, your wives, and your homes!" - Jerusalem 445 BC
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamil View Post
    Prosecutors argued Courtier was motivated by his white supremacist beliefs — saying he was a member of the European Kindred white supremacist prison gang and was wearing the gang's logo on his baseball cap and had its tattoo on his leg when he encountered Bruce.


    I've never heard of "Euorpean Kindred" but if it's true that he belongs to it, and it is indeed a white supremacy group (the name kinda strongly implies that it is), and he has some kind of legit justification for running that guy over, it really is a horrible coincidence that this White Supremacist happened to run down and kill a black person. For statistical purposes I don't have a problem with them classifying the motive as hate crime. It's in the FBI NIBRS system for a long time as a way to categorize such things for statistical purposes. Not fond of "hate crime" laws as such. But nevertheless, if it wasn't self defense, and it doesn't sound like this was, the sentence seems just to me without the superfluous "hate crime" label attached. You don't just get to just run people over and kill them.
    My point is that there is a burden of proof beyond evidence of the man's general beliefs. His motive could have just as easily been that the decedent said his momma wears combat boots which has nothing to do with race. It doesn't justify murder, but still fails to pass muster for a 'hate crime'.
    Government and pedophiles both practice buggering those powerless to defend themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyDave1776 View Post
    My point is that there is a burden of proof beyond evidence of the man's general beliefs. His motive could have just as easily been that the decedent said his momma wears combat boots which has nothing to do with race. It doesn't justify murder, but still fails to pass muster for a 'hate crime'.
    Agreed. But he did kill the guy. I don't think that much was in question. Did he use a self-defense defense?
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    -spread the word to save the r-word.
    -advocacy is sane; activism is retarded.
    -what if you’re full of ****?

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    Now, Dave, we all know it is much worse to kill someone because you hate their color than if you just hate them or you just kill them for the thrill of it.
    The member formerly known as blue falcon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue falcon View Post
    Now, Dave, we all know it is much worse to kill someone because you hate their color than if you just hate them or you just kill them for the thrill of it.
    Right. I mean sometimes you just feel like killing someone at random, even if they're only 5 years old.

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