Assault Rifles should be banned

[Bill of Rights]

This has been a good test for us. An eye opener. It would be foolish to think that the anti's aren't trolling this board. It would be premo "ammunition" for their cause to show how unstable gun owners are, by starting a nasty Internet argument.

I'm sure they do. And what they (intentionally) fail to take into account is the fact that "instability" whilst arguing on an internet forum is not the same thing as "instability" leading someone to taking violent action to injure or kill another human being.

I told my daughter when she was in school that she could end as many fights as she needed to, but if she started one, she'd have another when she got home. I never had to put that to the test, thankfully. The school REALLY wouldn't have approved of that permission, had they ever caught her doing that, and as I've said on other threads, that is the problem. Our children are taught that it is wrong to defend yourself, that you will be punished as much as the person who attacked you. It's that kind of thinking that leads to people thinking self-defense is not their right and therefore, any tool they could use should be taken away by those in charge so that it cannot be abused. You know, on reflection, I think I agree with that last, because the people are the masters and government is the servant, that's why it's called "public service" to be a LEO or government official.

We are peaceable, law-abiding people. Just because we are willing and able to act in a violent manner in self defense does not mean we are willing to do so without provocation or from a position of offense.

Blessings,
B

 

[ATM]

Good job, INGO

And once again, to Zach. I do hope you stick around. Good folks here.

 

[singlestacksig]

unfortunately, without good moderation any public forum degrades into a flame war zone..

just as some posters on other pro gun sites get nasty, i have seen anti gun posters do the same on their sites, or on gun sites..

people use the apparent anonymity of the internet as a chance to forget their manners..

a while back there used to b a nice web site packing.org , untill the site owner choose to go to a no moderated sysgtem..
the spam and bad posters made it unusable ...

 

[jeremy]

Actually up until 1903? the entire male population of the United States was considered to be the militia. That is the militia the founding fathers refered to with the term militia. At that time the National Guard was formally created, and the drift away from everyone thinking of themselves as militia has eroded with time.

And as far as the founders not meaning for the populace to have .mil grade hardware where do you think most of the weapons and firearms of the revolution came from. From there muskets to the cannons that were used at the start of the war were generally owned by the person using it.

 

[Turtle]

Hmm lets see..... 4-handguns and 10 rifles of various shapes and functions including an evil AK47 and wanting more! One might ask?.... What a city turtle like me needs with so many guns? FUN! FUN! FUN! They are all recreational unless I'm truly fearful for my life. That said... be nice to turtles...lol
So yes! give me 30, 40, 75 round mags, evil assault rifles, machine-guns, full auto pistols, And plenty of ammo and metal targets that make that beautiful (ding) sound. ( I love that sound ) Turtle! Turtle!

 

[flagtag]

Actually up until 1903? the entire male population of the United States was considered to be the militia. That is the militia the founding fathers refered to with the term militia. At that time the National Guard was formally created, and the drift away from everyone thinking of themselves as militia has eroded with time.

And as far as the founders not meaning for the populace to have .mil grade hardware where do you think most of the weapons and firearms of the revolution came from. From there muskets to the cannons that were used at the start of the war were generally owned by the person using it.

Many of them made their own weapons. Or had blacksmiths do it for them.

Yep! The Constitutiion did not list any qualifications for firearms at all.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Actually up until 1903? the entire male population of the United States was considered to be the militia. That is the militia the founding fathers refered to with the term militia. At that time the National Guard was formally created, and the drift away from everyone thinking of themselves as militia has eroded with time.

And as far as the founders not meaning for the populace to have .mil grade hardware where do you think most of the weapons and firearms of the revolution came from. From there muskets to the cannons that were used at the start of the war were generally owned by the person using it.

10USC sec 311 has not been repealed. We are all STILL the militia, just that those in the Guard or active duty are the "organized militia" while the rest of us (technically, males up to age 44) are the "unorganized militia".

FWIW.

Blessings,
B

 

[techres]

My preference is to be civil and inviting. If they are a troll, they will not accept the invite. If they are for real, you dang well better hope you were inviting. And in either case, as the man says, "There's no reason we can't be civil."

To use Christian metaphors - defensive missionaries don't get much evangelizing done.

 

[flagtag]

10USC sec 311 has not been repealed. We are all STILL the militia, just that those in the Guard or active duty are the "organized militia" while the rest of us (technically, males up to age 44) are the "unorganized militia".

FWIW.

Blessings,
B

I believe if the situation warranted, we would find a "third classification" for the Militia - "all others" . In other words, all those "able-bodied" souls of any age not previously listed. The definition of "able-bodied" would depend on the volunteer's interpretation. And I don't think anyone would be turned down. Do you?

 

[bwframe]

10USC sec 311 has not been repealed. We are all STILL the militia, just that those in the Guard or active duty are the "organized militia" while the rest of us (technically, males up to age 44) are the "unorganized militia".

Not all of us mister. I'm a dab over 44. Guess that makes me a mercenary. I'll charge a dollar, or a handshake, whichever you prefer.

 

[rhino]

unfortunately, without good moderation any public forum degrades into a flame war zone..

I agree that it's likely without moderation given how things usually, but don't agree that "any" public forum will do so. I also think that heavy-handed moderation is far worse than no moderation at all. Ideally moderation and moderators should be invisible to most of the participants.

 

[Scutter01]

Ideally moderation and moderators should be invisible to most of the participants.

Hey!


/got nothing. Just incoherent indignation.

 

[singlestacksig]

I agree that it's likely without moderation given how things usually, but don't agree that "any" public forum will do so. I also think that heavy-handed moderation is far worse than no moderation at all.

yes, heavy moderation is not the same as good.

 

[Bill of Rights]

Not all of us mister. I'm a dab over 44. Guess that makes me a mercenary. I'll charge a dollar, or a handshake, whichever you prefer.

I was reading something (and I don't recall what or where) but it was explaining either why those over 44 were still in the unorganized militia (maybe from the perspective that they could respond, but could not be expected to do so?) or why the RKBA was still theirs irrespective of current militia service. I wish I could reference it now.

Either way, though, if I'm "paying", I'll offer that handshake- between friends.

Blessings,
B

 

[flagtag]

I was reading something (and I don't recall what or where) but it was explaining either why those over 44 were still in the unorganized militia (maybe from the perspective that they could respond, but could not be expected to do so?) or why the RKBA was still theirs irrespective of current militia service. I wish I could reference it now.

Either way, though, if I'm "paying", I'll offer that handshake- between friends.

Blessings,
B

It's us "old folks" that are the sneaky ones. How many would feel threatened by us? (Sneak attack!)

 

[MACHINEGUN]

I'm amazed at the originator of this thread.. totally amazed.

 

[jeremy]

LMFAO.... I can see it now, some point in the future generations, students learning of the walker charge.

 

[flagtag]

LMFAO.... I can see it now, some point in the future generations, students learning of the walker charge.

Called the "Gummy Brigade"!

 

[CarmelHP]

I was reading something (and I don't recall what or where) but it was explaining either why those over 44 were still in the unorganized militia (maybe from the perspective that they could respond, but could not be expected to do so?) or why the RKBA was still theirs irrespective of current militia service. I wish I could reference it now.

One more time, the right is guaranteed to the people, not the militia, the right of the people tends to ensure the militia, but the right is not dependent on the militia. Militia membership is irrelevant.

 

[Bill of Rights]

One more time, the right is guaranteed to the people, not the militia, the right of the people tends to ensure the militia, but the right is not dependent on the militia. Militia membership is irrelevant.

Fully agreed. I was just wanting the item I was reading so I could point to it. Thanks for restating it.

Blessings,
B