do you believe in the conspiracies?

[Bigum1969]

How many stories down is the trains? At least 2 I'm sure.

Probably 2-3 stories at most. Can't be 100% sure though.

 

[tyler34]

there was also a marine barracks in california that was in the shape of a swastika, they figured it out from google earth. I don't think there was some evil conspiracy happening at those barracks when the others around it were constructed different. I'm sure there was a logically engineered reason for the airport to be shaped like that.

 

[Bigum1969]

there was also a marine barracks in california that was in the shape of a swastika, they figured it out from google earth. I don't think there was some evil conspiracy happening at those barracks when the others around it were constructed different. I'm sure there was a logically engineered reason for the airport to be shaped like that.

Hitler's still alive. He lives in Argentina. In a small house on a hill near the ocean.

 

[SavageEagle]

Hitler's still alive. He lives in Argentina. In a small house on a hill near the ocean.

He's chilling with Tupac, Biggie Smalls, and Elvis smoking a fatty and drinking Alize!

 

[Bigum1969]

He's chilling with Tupac, Biggie Smalls, and Elvis smoking a fatty and drinking Alize!

And, MJ just joined them

 

[dburkhead]

I can still think of many more layouts for the airport other than a swastika. Does this still not make you scratch your head? Was the swastika pattern really the ONLY choice they had?

Why? First off a symbol like that is meaningful only if people make a point of it and deliberately point it out. Without folk pointing to it and saying "here is our symbol, that we put there to show how powerful we are" it's just runways.

Let me tell you a story. Book publishers go to a lot of effort to proofread books and check for errors in printing and in production and yet you almost cannot pick up a book without finding spelling (among other) errors somewhere in them. Once a publisher tried to make a special effort to make a "perfect book," to go over it repeatedly again and again and again until every spelling, punctuation, and other error had been rooted out and corrected. And so, when this "perfect book" was published what should they find? Someone pointed out that the title, on the title page, was spelled wrong.

Odd stuff, or stuff that people think is odd, happens without the need for any "conspiracies." Look at the pyramid "theorists". They define a "pyramid inch" and show that ratios of various dimensions in the pyramid match certain "key events" of history to claim that the pyramid predicted all these things. The thing is, after the fact you can do that kind of thing with anything. A guy did that once with his bicycle--defined a "bicycle inch" and "proved" that things like the number of spokes against the length of the chain or what have you measured out the time of certain events in history.

I've pulled the same stunt when it comes to religion and creation myths showing how they are metaphors for modern science. Take, for example, the Norse creation myth. In the beginning there was Niffleheim, the land of ice (cold), and Muspelheim, the land of fire (heat), one day the ice from Niffleheim encountered the heat of the flames from Muspelheim and gave birth to Ymir, the frost giant from whom the world is formed. Could anything be more clear? It's obviously a description of the principles of thermodynamics where the interaction of heat sources and heat sinks (symbolized by fire and ice in the tale) is the source of everything that happens in the Universe.

When you have the entire length of history, and the breadth of science, to play with, you can find endless "coincidences" that, frankly, mean no more than seeing faces in clouds.

Human beings are hard-wired to find patterns in things. As a species we're very good at it, to the extent that we find patterns where there are none.

That's why at the heart of science is the concept of falsifiability, which really comes down to making a considerable effort to ask "how do I know if I'm wrong?" If the theory is wrong, what experiment, what observation, what piece of information would demonstrate that? If you don't have something like that, then one has to think really long and hard about whether the theory is just faces in clouds.

 

[SavageEagle]

That is very interesting. I mean that with all sincerity too.

I'm not saying that a layout of an airport is the sign of the Apocalypse. I'm just saying that there's more to that airport that meets the eye. It's just another dot in the massive game of connect the dots. Only not all the dots are visible.

Yes, we as a species are good at finding patterns. But that doesn't mean there's a pattern to be found. Just as you said.

Either way, I can't prove my theory, but neither can any of you. Until there is definite proof no one can. My only remaining question is this...

With so many things like the Sumerian Tablets, the Easter Island Heads, Stonehenge, the Pyramids, among so many other things, how can you not be suspicious and interested in how and why?

So many things can not be explained. So many things in nature cannot be explained. Science is not always right. Theorists are not always right.

I'm never right.

Question authority, never conform, never accept normalcy.

 

[vxtip]

i wanna know where the microchip realllllly came from!

 

[Bigum1969]

i wanna know where the microchip realllllly came from!

 

[oldfb]

Replace Plot and Conspiricy with Plan and Agenda and I think you will find the highest levels of power in each major organization are constantly rubbing elbows, working together or against the other powerbrokers.

You can all joke about tinfoil all day long.

It still won't change the fact that there are people with enormous wealth and power that have plans and hidden agendas.

Is it a roswellian conspiricy? Probably not.

Are most of their plans and agendas thwarted or derailed by other powerbrokers agendas? Probably yes.

Think of them as Wil-e-coyote with billions in $.

No one ever said they were super intelligent, I just think they have a vision and plan that includes them having more and us having less!

Less freedom, rights & power.

I think most people that strongly disagree with that concept are convincing themselves that there isn't a ruling class or monsters behind the curtains.

Our country alone has plotted and coordinated attacks to undermine the Soviets, Cubans and many others. Have they been successful? Sometimes yes but often no. Random human actions play an enourmous factor in these outcomes to plans.

Just because a plan failed doesn't mean it wasn't a plan!

So maybe the Illuminati are nothing worth fearing and just maybe it isn't the organization but the top dogs with power, connections and wealth that bear watching.

Just my .02

 

[agentl074]

Replace Plot and Conspiracy with Plan and Agenda and I think you will find the highest levels of power in each major organization are constantly rubbing elbows, working together or against the other power-brokers.

You can all joke about tinfoil all day long.

It still won't change the fact that there are people with enormous wealth and power that have plans and hidden agendas.

Is it a roswellian conspiracy? Probably not.

Are most of their plans and agendas thwarted or derailed by other power-brokers agendas? Probably yes.

Think of them as Wil-e-coyote with billions in $.

No one ever said they were super intelligent, I just think they have a vision and plan that includes them having more and us having less!

Less freedom, rights & power.

I think most people that strongly disagree with that concept are convincing themselves that there isn't a ruling class or monsters behind the curtains.

Our country alone has plotted and coordinated attacks to undermine the Soviets, Cubans and many others. Have they been successful? Sometimes yes but often no. Random human actions play an enormous factor in these outcomes to plans.

Just because a plan failed doesn't mean it wasn't a plan!

So maybe the Illuminati are nothing worth fearing and just maybe it isn't the organization but the top dogs with power, connections and wealth that bear watching.

Just my .02

I agree! Money and greed... people who control it! The real conspiracies are the ones where people in high places want more control over the economic decisions. Businesses strive to control, interest groups strive to control and politicians strive to control ... see an issue?

 

[Mgderf]

LOOK OUT, It's Global Warming

 

[agentl074]

LOOK OUT, It's Global Warming

...And he would be ranking in the dough from cap and trade and climate change bills. He has a lot to gain! Oh we gotta tax Co2 because it is bad....

 

[45calibre]

tell me about the REAl masons. from what ive read about them about what the compass and square stand for i like so far. im not saying i want to join but this is intriguing

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Lived in Denver for 10 years, including the time they built and opened Denver International Airport. The underground digging was for the underground train system. Another one is for the baggage transport system. Sorry, I think you're a little off on this one.

BTW, the airport is massive. I mean massive. It takes up a huge amount of land and all its parts are separated by long distances -- hence all the underground connections. No conspiracies.

Damn you!!!!!

 

[Blackhawk2001]

SO why is it Indy's Airport has never had this happen? They have paralell runways and have never had this happen. THey even have planes land within a minute or less of each other.

Perhaps because Indy had to fit their runways in the land they had available. I'm not really familiar with the ATC handbook, but I do remember that takeoff and landing intervals are regulated. Since wake turbulence usually affects smaller/lighter aircraft more than the heavies, heavy aircraft under Visual Flight Conditions may be allowed a shorter interval between landings.

Another thing to remember about the Denver airport. It's about a mile above Mean Sea Level, as compared to Indy's 890 feet or so. That means aircraft need a _lot_ more runway to takeoff, and the mountains surrounding the city can create winds which make landings - interesting. A variety of approaches may make for safer takeoffs & landings.

 

[semperfi211]

What about the people that say the United States knew Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor and let it happen to get more support for entering WW2 ? Do you think that happened?

 

[45calibre]

What about the people that say the United States knew Japan was going to attack Pearl Harbor and let it happen to get more support for entering WW2 ? Do you think that happened?

i beleive it did. it is rumored that the same sort of thing happened on 9/11.

 

[semperfi211]

I beleive in both attacks we had intelligence that wasn't specific enough like exactly when and where and how, but after the fact it was easier to connect the dots because then you know what those clues meant.

 

[45calibre]

on 9/11 they were running simulations with fighter jets replicating terrorists hijacking a plane. the plan was for the fighters to shoot it down if necessary. then when they got the actual call the pilots were like, is this for real?