Repubs "Pledge to America"

[mrjarrell]

Umm... Mmk... Who are the Libertarians running again? And what is the LPUS? Isn't that a desease? Weekly newsletter... You mean spam? Maybe it's in my spam folder. I'll go check when I 'm done typing. Do you really call it a party with only two people? I think discussion or debate club is more appropriate.

And is that your official marketing message - Libertarians. The best ideas you'd find if you'd even do a modicum of looking.

Here's mine. Libertarians. Crying out in the wilderness, unheard over the gentle hushed breeze whispering through the leaves. They both fit.

If you want people to know about you, maybe actually telling someone rather than acting like a freakin snobby elitist libtard would be in order.

Yawn. Your plan's working well for us so far. Keep on doing the same thing, maybe more lube will help you.

 

[Fletch]

a weekly newsletter?

That's how they are going to reach out and change America?

In the long run, I think newsletters are a far better way to go than spinelessly caving in to the Democrats as a matter of policy, but then I never did understand that part of the Republican strategy.

Maybe get some people together and actually be heard by someone... or is that a bit too much?

libertarians (lowercase on purpose) have been getting heard, and have been making modest but meaningful gains. Some of us don't see it as a struggle for political dominance, however, and that's when the party folks start having trouble keeping all the bullfrogs in the wheelbarrow.

There are structural issues with groups of individualists that collectivist parties like the Republicans and Democrats don't have to address. Frankly I'm not sure libertarians will ever be able to overcome those issues, but then I'm one of those who don't think it's strictly necessary to do so.

 

[Fletch]

Let's see...they have a DC office from which they lobby. We have Reason Magazine and CATO.

Don't forget Mises.org.

 

[SemperFiUSMC]

Yawn. Your plan's working well for us so far. Keep on doing the same thing, maybe more lube will help you.

Not sure I understand. You come out and dress people down for not knowing YOUR message which YOU FAILED to get out and rather than say oh wow, let me get you some info you want to further denegrate people who've never heard of you. Some people skills work might be in order.

I'll go back to getting called names by dumbocraps. At least they're relevent for a couple more months.

 

[Expat]

Not sure I understand. You come out and dress people down for not knowing YOUR message which YOU FAILED to get out and rather than say oh wow, let me get you some info you want to further denegrate people who've never heard of you. Some people skills work might be in order.

I'll go back to getting called names by dumbocraps. At least they're relevent for a couple more months.

Sometimes you get the feeling that they enjoy belonging to such a small club.

 

[Fletch]

Sometimes you get the feeling that they enjoy belonging to such a small club.

Sometimes I get the feeling that Republicans just aren't paying attention, as with this, the most unintentionally hilarious part of the whole Pledge:

We will also prevent Washington from forcing responsible taxpayers to subsidize irresponsible behavior by ending bailouts permanently, canceling the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), and reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Not saying it's not a slick move, asking for your job back by promising to fix the problem you created. I just wonder how many Republicans have mentally assigned all "bailout" programs to Obama in their heads and are now banging the drum to get rid of that "dumbocrap TARP thing".

ETA: What's even better, TARP is already scheduled to end October 3rd, a month before the election. I'm sure that'll go down as "another promise kept".

 

[mrjarrell]

Reason has a short piece on the hot air from the beltway.
Pledgin' Their Time, But Not to Cutting the Federal Budget - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

 

[9lock]

After monitoring this forum and watching patterns, many of you might be wondering why you are consistently being attacked over and over again by the same "members" pushing they're narrative, antagonize in an effort to shut down any discussion. example many of you use (IBTL) It would seem it is always the same issues again and again, my guess would be many are unaware of Internet Warfare Shills.

 

[pudly]

Besides, the Tea Party movement started with a REPUBLICAN as president. To protest AGAINST what he was going to ultimately sign.

Sorry, but I believe that statement is entirely wrong. The first national protests were triggered by Rick Santelli's rant about the Democratic plan to spend our money on failed mortgages after Obama was in office. Those loans were the same ones that Bush fought against, but Barney Frank and Co. kept alive as part of the Community Reinvestment Act with Fannie and Freddie as enablers.

The only "Tea Party" protests in 2008 were entirely unrelated to either Bush or the Tea Party movement. They were instead against NY Gov David Paterson's (D) plan to tax non diet sodas in a misguided effort to punish the obese.

 

[Fletch]

Sorry, but I believe that statement is entirely wrong. The first national protests were triggered by Rick Santelli's rant about the Democratic plan to spend our money on failed mortgages after Obama was in office. Those loans were the same ones that Bush fought against, but Barney Frank and Co. kept alive as part of the Community Reinvestment Act with Fannie and Freddie as enablers.

The only "Tea Party" protests in 2008 were entirely unrelated to either Bush or the Tea Party movement. They were instead against NY Gov David Paterson's (D) plan to tax non diet sodas in a misguided effort to punish the obese.

Disagree. The Tea Party was already rolling with Bush's TARP bailout. Obama just threw gasoline on the fire.

 

[photoshooter]

Sorry, but I believe that statement is entirely wrong. The first national protests were triggered by Rick Santelli's rant about the Democratic plan to spend our money on failed mortgages after Obama was in office. Those loans were the same ones that Bush fought against, but Barney Frank and Co. kept alive as part of the Community Reinvestment Act with Fannie and Freddie as enablers.

The only "Tea Party" protests in 2008 were entirely unrelated to either Bush or the Tea Party movement. They were instead against NY Gov David Paterson's (D) plan to tax non diet sodas in a misguided effort to punish the obese.

Actually... TEA Party started earlier than Obama here in Indy. I was still asleep then. Where were the rest of the GOP supporters?

YouTube - Indianapolis Tea Party - July 28, 2007

The liberty movement started with TEA Parties much earlier. The ones in Indiana were organized around State and Local property taxes. But, they were being organized. Most folks just kept slumbering peacefully along, trusting their federalist or progressive overlords to provide bread and circuses for them.

I was one of those that kept looking at the Rs as better than Ds. This past year I finally realized that R or D doesn't matter. Both lead down the road of Big Govt elites telling us what we have to do.

 

[mrjarrell]

There were local Tea Parties in Indiana protesting property taxes prior to 2008. As well as Ron Paul inspired "Tea Parties" back into 2007 that were fund raising for his presidential run.

 

[mrjarrell]

Actually... TEA Party started earlier than Obama here in Indy. I was still asleep then. Where were the rest of the GOP supporters?

YouTube - Indianapolis Tea Party - July 28, 2007

The liberty movement started with TEA Parties much earlier. The ones in Indiana were organized around State and Local property taxes. But, they were being organized. Most folks just kept slumbering peacefully along, trusting their federalist or progressive overlords to provide bread and circuses for them.

I was one of those that kept looking at the Rs as better than Ds. This past year I finally realized that R or D doesn't matter. Both lead down the road of Big Govt elites telling us what we have to do.

I remember that event. Love the Rush in the background! Nice to also see Sean Shepard out there, too! A well known Indianapolis libertarian.

 

[88GT]

Nothing impressive... Nothing that makes me all giddy. the GOP can go screw themselves until they actually sweat and bleed to make this country great again, until then, they will be viewed in the same lime light as the disgusting democrats.

You mean it didn't make you pee down your leg just a little?

 

[Duncan]

GOP: A Big Fat Zero

GOP Manifesto: A Big Fat Zero in [Market-Ticker]

Ok, National Firearms Act, The Department of Education, Social Security, Medicare and all the rest will be offered as bills to repeal

 

[kingnereli]

This thread has fail written all over it.

 

[christman]

that link is so angry.

 

[Lex Concord]

But not nearly angry enough. I read the "pledge" earlier today. The GOP doesn't have its ears on, it's just trying to weasel back into power based on the current anger of the people.

If every bit of the pledge were passed and signed by Obama, it might be a decent start, but we're about out of time for *****footing around the major problems that face the economy and government.

 

[Lex Concord]

The Pledge is laughable, to say the least.

What the GOP's Pledge Has in Common With ObamaCare - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine

I love the part where the PDF document is 135MB because Republicans are apparently too stupid to know how to compress it. Oh... apparently now it is compressed... to "only" 9.4MB, which is still the height of stupidity because the entire freaking BIBLE takes up less than half that!!! And these are the people we're supposed to trust for governing in the 21st Century?!?! Don't any of them have a 12-year-old handy?

Oh, but I've never seen any copy of the bible with one tenth the images that this 43 page bit of tripe has.

 

[Lex Concord]

Umm... Mmk... Who are the Libertarians running again? And what is the LPUS? Isn't that a desease? Weekly newsletter... You mean spam? Maybe it's in my spam folder. I'll go check when I 'm done typing. Do you really call it a party with only two people? I think discussion or debate club is more appropriate.

And is that your official marketing message - Libertarians. The best ideas you'd find if you'd even do a modicum of looking.

Here's mine. Libertarians. Crying out in the wilderness, unheard over the gentle hushed breeze whispering through the leaves. They both fit.

If you want people to know about you, maybe actually telling someone rather than acting like a freakin snobby elitist libtard would be in order.

Congratulations on effectively demonstrating irony.