Indianapolis Schools kick out 1,622 kids without vaccines

[rambone]

Indiana is "requiring" 2 new vaccines for students in grades 6-12, starting this week. Schools sent home as many as 1,622 students this week who did not show their proof of being vaccinated. What schools are failing to do [not surprisingly] is tell students and parents the truth, that exemptions exist as the law is written, and their student may attend without any shots whatsoever.

Why would the schools lie about the actual law? What do they have to gain? Furthermore, why does every newspaper article I have read about it (at least 6) NOT mention the exemptions either? Should the truth be hidden from parents? Read the law for yourself - the shots are NOT MANDATORY.

Does it disturb you that there is a concerted effort to force you to be vaccinated coming from Government, Media, Schools, & Big Pharma? Do you exercise your rights or do you get pushed around like an ignorant sheep?



School Vaccinations: Hundreds of students without shots sent home

1,622 IPS students sent home for lack of proof of shots





The laws are very clear in Indiana. Medical or religious exemptions are allowed.

STATE LAW: Read Indiana Code 20-34-3-2 Parents may want to include a copy of this statute with their letters to ensure that school districts are made well aware of this statute.

Indiana State Vaccine Requirements - National Vaccine Information Center

A school child may not be required to undergo any immunization when the child's parent objects on religious grounds. A religious objection must be:
(1) Made in writing;
(2) Signed by the child's parent; and
(3) Delivered to the child's teacher or to the individual who might order an immunization.

IN STATE FAQ: 23. What must a religious objection contain?
A religious objection must be in writing and state that the objection to immunization is based on religious grounds; signed by the child’s parent; and delivered to the school. There is no requirement of proof. The written objection must be resubmitted to the school each year.

KNOW THE LAW. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. KNOW THE DANGERS.
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[MarkM]

Vaccinations are what the government uses to implant tacking chips into us.

 

[rambone]

If you want to talk about a conspiracy, talk about the poisons and carcinogens in the 100's of vaccines that children get that make them sickly, life-long customers of pharmaceutical companies.

But this thread is doing fine just with the fact that schools are bullying students and ERRANTLY administering the law.

 

[IndySSD]

This is a great point and one that I'm afraid is just a pre-cursor.

I personally FREAKED OUT when I saw the full video of Bill Gates talking about population reduction via vaccination. Here's a shortened version and no, it's not taken out of context...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQtRI7A064&feature=related]YouTube - Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation[/ame]

 

[IndySSD]

Vaccinations are what the government uses to implant tacking chips into us.

No, Vaccinations are what the "haves" are using to sterilize the "have nots".

Check out the side effects listed publicly for some of the latest and greatest vaccines. better yet, check out the Government Vaccine Side Effects page.

 

[Disposable Heart]

They misspelled vaccines in the picture!

What concerns me isn't necessarily the big government, paranoia type of stuff, but specifically the money Pharma makes off of these vaccinations. While some are "free" depending on what and where, someone in Pharma still gets paid to make them. Couple that with government (large, small, shadow, puppet, what ever type you desire to ensure mind control paranoia) requirement, then you have a perfect money maker. Congress or similar gets kickbacks from voting on bills requiring vaccines.

While maybe not "mind control", population control and paranoid dellusion dujour, maybe the most simplest explanation is the best (occam's razor): It's about money, campaign contributions, kickbacks. And like any other product produced on mass scale: it is not well researched, well made and anything biological in nature is prone to flaws and failures. Don't be mad about them trying to control you mind or what ever shadow you see in the corner of your eye, be mad they are mandating things that may not be necessary to make continued money through their Pharma cronies.

 

[Disposable Heart]

If you want to talk about a conspiracy, talk about the poisons and carcinogens in the 100's of vaccines that children get that make them sickly, life-long customers of pharmaceutical companies.

But this thread is doing fine just with the fact that schools are bullying students and ERRANTLY administering the law.

If I could rep, I would. Paranoid fantasy aside, it is wrong for them to administer law and bully the US population with this crap.

 

[Lucas156]

Were gonna have to fight for the 4th amendment

 

[CorvetteTom]

I hope that the schools funding was stopped for the kids that got booted!!

 

[jedi]

If you want to talk about a conspiracy, talk about the poisons and carcinogens in the 100's of vaccines that children get that make them sickly, life-long customers of pharmaceutical companies.

So you would rather not have an infant get the shots in this table?
2006 Childhood and Adolescent Immunization Schedule

Becuase it will make them sicky (long term)?


I'm clueless on the vaccincation stuff.

 

[public servant]

Home school. Then the problem is solved.

 

[rambone]

So you would rather not have an infant get the shots in this table?
2006 Childhood and Adolescent Immunization Schedule

Good question. No, I will not give my kid any shots.

I have friends who have never had a shot in their life, and they are healthier than practically anybody I know. You see, vaccines contain all sorts of harmful chemicals, toxins, and cancer-causing agents that can bring untold amounts of harm to your body, short-term and long term. All you have to do is read the fine print on the package. Things like mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, carbolic acid, acetone, glycerin, and many other dangerous substances, are being injected straight into the bloodstream, organs, and brain.

Becuase it will make them sicky (long term)?

The CDC itself is willing to admit the following vaccine injuries, which includes high fevers, severe allergic reactions, Guillian-Barre syndrome, paralysis, deafness, brain-damage, coma, seizures and death.

CDC - Vaccine Side-Effects

I'm clueless on the vaccincation stuff.

Thanks for asking. There is a lot to know about them before you make a decision to vaccinate your kids. Doctors don't bother telling you that you could drop to the floor instantly and start having a seizure when the chemicals are attacking your nervous system.

 

[88GT]

I'm clueless on the vaccincation stuff.

As with all things, there's a little bit of truth and a whole lot of crap being bandied about by both sides.

Vaxing is a legitimate vehicle to preventing what otherwise are pointless and potentially life-threatening diseases. The science behind it is rather solid.

But as with all things medical-turned-business, there's an element of how to reduce costs that has had some unpleasant consequences. Individual dosing of individual vaxes is costly. So the vax companies devised ways to combine multiple doses and multiple vaxes into a larger source container that can be drawn from to administer the the vax to multiple people in a single shot.

The problem is that this process couldn't be done simply by combining Vax A with Vax B multiple times and then bottling it in bulk size. Several additives had to be introduced to maintain the potency and efficacy of the vax. Most of the adverse reactions to vaxes are from these additives, not the bugs used to create the immune response.

The other big issue is the method of creating large quantities of the vax. Some of the methods used introduce other ingredients that are the most likely culprits in adverse reactions.

There are other much less common issues with vaxes, but those two are the most common. And, regrettably, have little to do with the actual science of vaxing, though you'd never hear that from the anti-vaxing crowd.

The more rational members of the US population that have concerns about the modern standard of childhood vax programs can seek out alternative forms of vaxing: single dose vials, single vax doses, delayed administration, or a combo of these (and others).

My biggest gripe with the anti-vax crowd is the insistent implication that vaxing is an all-or-nothing option. Either you choose to vax according to the most common standard or you have to eschew it altogether. They simply refuse to discuss the middle ground. They also refuse to discuss the fact that vaxing is the primary reason what were once common childhood diseases are practically non-existent in the population now.

The only part of vaxing I have issue with is the insistence that every disease for which they can create a vax is one in which we should all take them. The chicken pox vax is a great example. The risk of severe adverse reactions from a case of the chicken pox--meaning you got more than just a bad case of the itchies from the blisters; it actually threatened your life--are about on par with the risk of severe adverse reactions from taking the vax. Which essentially means we're promoting vaxing against chicken pox for pure comfort purposes. Contrast that to polio or perhaps tetanus in which failure to vax greatly increases the chances that the individual will experience severe adverse effects from the disease.

I hate the vaxing debate. It doesn't help that the majority of people who jump on the anti-vaxing bandwagon are granola-crunching liberal panty-waists who think anything not automatically in their body is a toxin.

 

[rambone]

Home school. Then the problem is solved.

Maybe for one kid, not for all the rest. Government is involving itself in affairs it has no business in. If we don't stop making excuses for them and start waking people up, there will be no way to avoid their dictations over our every move.

This is a big problem. A societal problem. We have let the Government control us for so long that people are actually surprised when they find out that they have a right to say NO. People need to hear this and have this debate. So many people never even think twice about vaccines until somebody in their family is brain-damaged.

 

[IndySSD]

I guess I'm the exception here. I disagree with most vaccinations but found that the most harmful ones are batched in China. I made sure what lot my ped was using and where he gets his supplies.

I have had my son vaccinated for things like polio and chicken pox. Thank god I don't have a daughter so I don't have to argue over the [STRIKE]sterilization[/STRIKE] Hpap vaccine.

But I agree with 88GT, the harm comes from the "chop" used to combine everything as well as packaging techniques.

I am by no means a granola crunching libtard, I simply try to educate myself to both the risks AND benefits of any medical treatments my family subjects themselves to.

As with all things, there's a little bit of truth and a whole lot of crap being bandied about by both sides.

Vaxing is a legitimate vehicle to preventing what otherwise are pointless and potentially life-threatening diseases. The science behind it is rather solid.

But as with all things medical-turned-business, there's an element of how to reduce costs that has had some unpleasant consequences. Individual dosing of individual vaxes is costly. So the vax companies devised ways to combine multiple doses and multiple vaxes into a larger source container that can be drawn from to administer the the vax to multiple people in a single shot.

The problem is that this process couldn't be done simply by combining Vax A with Vax B multiple times and then bottling it in bulk size. Several additives had to be introduced to maintain the potency and efficacy of the vax. Most of the adverse reactions to vaxes are from these additives, not the bugs used to create the immune response.

The other big issue is the method of creating large quantities of the vax. Some of the methods used introduce other ingredients that are the most likely culprits in adverse reactions.

There are other much less common issues with vaxes, but those two are the most common. And, regrettably, have little to do with the actual science of vaxing, though you'd never hear that from the anti-vaxing crowd.

The more rational members of the US population that have concerns about the modern standard of childhood vax programs can seek out alternative forms of vaxing: single dose vials, single vax doses, delayed administration, or a combo of these (and others).

My biggest gripe with the anti-vax crowd is the insistent implication that vaxing is an all-or-nothing option. Either you choose to vax according to the most common standard or you have to eschew it altogether. They simply refuse to discuss the middle ground. They also refuse to discuss the fact that vaxing is the primary reason what were once common childhood diseases are practically non-existent in the population now.

The only part of vaxing I have issue with is the insistence that every disease for which they can create a vax is one in which we should all take them. The chicken pox vax is a great example. The risk of severe adverse reactions from a case of the chicken pox--meaning you got more than just a bad case of the itchies from the blisters; it actually threatened your life--are about on par with the risk of severe adverse reactions from taking the vax. Which essentially means we're promoting vaxing against chicken pox for pure comfort purposes. Contrast that to polio or perhaps tetanus in which failure to vax greatly increases the chances that the individual will experience severe adverse effects from the disease.

I hate the vaxing debate. It doesn't help that the majority of people who jump on the anti-vaxing bandwagon are granola-crunching liberal panty-waists who think anything not automatically in their body is a toxin.

 

[jedi]

Thanks all for the info. So based on the OPs can onn per IC sent a child to public shcool who have not had ANY or is missing some of the shots that the school lists as "needed" and write a letter that says based on religious grounds my child does not have shot "abc" and will not be getting shot "abc" this year. & do that year after year and still allow the child to attend the shcool?

 

[mrjarrell]

While some vaccines might cause a few problems, some vaccines are necessary to avoid illness and death, as Californians are finding out.
Whooping Cough Epidemic: 10th Baby Dies in California Whooping Cough Epidemic - latimes.com

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Having worked on the public safety emergency management planning end of the governmental response to epidemics or biowarfare, I can see what the schools are getting at by insisting that kids get vaccinated; but they go too far by insisting on the whole regime of vaccinations.

Having said that, I have two nephews who are autistic; their symptoms showed up after their multiple vaccinations. I have another nephew who developed diabetes in Basic Training, after getting 16 vaccinations in one day, and one of my brothers came down with Guilliane-Barr Syndrome after taking an AF-mandated flu vaccination, so I'm not a big fan of forced vaccinations.

 

[rambone]

As with all things, there's a little bit of truth and a whole lot of crap being bandied about by both sides.

I hate the vaxing debate. It doesn't help that the majority of people who jump on the anti-vaxing bandwagon are granola-crunching liberal panty-waists who think anything not automatically in their body is a toxin.

Thanks for the jabs. They might be granola-crunching liberals who "read food labels" and "aren't scared of getting the flu." Or they might be people who don't want the government to force them to do things. Or they might be people who don't appreciate being lied to by schools, & by doctors, about the laws and about the risks. Or they might be people who think its preposterous to inject chemicals into a newborn baby. Or they might be people who have seen their own family members harmed by vaccines.

As for downplaying the toxins that exist in vaccines, let me reiterate the following list: mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, carbolic acid, acetone, glycerin, and more!

They also refuse to discuss the fact that vaxing is the primary reason what were once common childhood diseases are practically non-existent in the population now.

Vaccines do not deserve the full-blown credit they receive for elimination of every modern disease. Diseases eventually die out on their own. This is why we don't have the Black Plague and Leprosy in America; it didn't die out because of vaccines. The disease ran its course and is, for all intents and purposes, gone. With modern sanitation, running water, anti-bacterial soaps, waste management, hospital cleanliness and and understanding of how germs spread; What disease stands a chance?? Besides some kind of Hollywood airborne plague, its just not going to happen.

This process of disease decline was well on its way when vaccines became common practice and the government took a stake in them. Conveniently Pharmaceutical Companies and the Government incessantly insist that their little money-maker is the Holy Grail of modern medicine. Here's some graphs from a study done in the UK that illustrates the decline of disease at the time when vaccination took off.

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The more rational members of the US population that have concerns about the modern standard of childhood vax programs can seek out alternative forms of vaxing: single dose vials, single vax doses, delayed administration, or a combo of these (and others).

My biggest gripe with the anti-vax crowd is the insistent implication that vaxing is an all-or-nothing option. Either you choose to vax according to the most common standard or you have to eschew it altogether. They simply refuse to discuss the middle ground.

The only part of vaxing I have issue with is the insistence that every disease for which they can create a vax is one in which we should all take them. The chicken pox vax is a great example. The risk of severe adverse reactions from a case of the chicken pox--meaning you got more than just a bad case of the itchies from the blisters; it actually threatened your life--are about on par with the risk of severe adverse reactions from taking the vax. Which essentially means we're promoting vaxing against chicken pox for pure comfort purposes. Contrast that to polio or perhaps tetanus in which failure to vax greatly increases the chances that the individual will experience severe adverse effects from the disease.

I support anybody's right to vaccinate, voluntarily, if they are fully-informed about the actual risks of the disease and of the injection. I also think parents deserve to see some long-term studies done on vaccines before they pump their kids full of them. Anybody who wants to take the middle-ground is at least thinking a little more than the folks who take the FDA-recommended route, getting literally hundreds of injections into your body with who-knows-what effects down the road.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

While some vaccines might cause a few problems, some vaccines are necessary to avoid illness and death, as Californians are finding out.
Whooping Cough Epidemic: 10th Baby Dies in California Whooping Cough Epidemic - latimes.com

9 of the infants were too young to receive the vac at all, and one only had the first dose because of age.
California Has 4,017 Cases Of Whooping Cough (pertussis) And 9 Deaths

And the vac doesn't protect after age 10 unless you get booster shots. Which according to the article most adults don't get.

ETA I can't find the link but I read somewhere that somewhere about 40-50% of the infected kids did have the vaccine. The link I listed states that it is effective in 80% of them.