IU as a free crime area rather than a crime free area

[steve666]

I've noticed a lot of newes coverage in the last couple of days regarding the increased number of rapes at IU. They are wringing their hands over what to do, offering self-defense courses and having the IU cops partner up with the Bloomington force. The one thing they don't seem to want to consider is allowing the carrying of firearms by the potential victims.

 

[Joe Williams]

Remember, to gun controllers (including gun stores that do not allow their customers to be armed) a raped and dead female is morally superior to one standing over her attacker with a smoking gun.

 

[critter592]

Then they interview one young woman who announces she carries her mace in her backpack. Isn't that against IU policy too? Not to mention she gave up any tactical advantage and when attacked in a flash she'll have tossed that book bag.

 

[abrumlev]

^ Lol yup! All "weapons" are illegal on our lovely campus.

 

[bwframe]

^ Lol yup! All "weapons" are illegal on our lovely campus.

Not all;

 

[theweakerbrother]

You raised'em right, Burl!

 

[indykid]

Sad part of IU is that under the student union building is one of the best indoor ranges ever built. But a jerk IU president shut it down because he didn't think it looked good seeing students walking around campus with rifles or shotguns over their shoulders.

Funny thing how the campus was so much safer before Mr. Brand declared it to be safe only for criminals.

 

[bwframe]

You raised'em right, Burl!

Nope. She ain't mine.
One of Shay's students. I copied the pic from this thread:
https://www.indianagunowners.com/fo...lab_-_flashlight_combatives_nov_6_2010_a.html

 

[chraland51]

This crap has been going on for a long, long time. I graduated from IU Bloomington in 1973 and it was happening way back then. Part of the problem was that many of the coeds did not think that something like that could happen to them. There are many night classes and labs that require coeds to be out after dark, often by themselves. I safely walked a few of them back to their dorms after an evening organic chemistry lab in the very wooded central part of campus. The suspected culprits at that time were some locals who just came onto the campus to get themselves a college girl. I do not know if they were ever actually caught. Even with this going on, the coeds continued to hitch hike and walk through campus by themselves after dark.

 

[Mr. Habib]

Sad part of IU is that under the student union building is one of the best indoor ranges ever built. But a jerk IU president shut it down because he didn't think it looked good seeing students walking around campus with rifles or shotguns over their shoulders.
Yeah, not to mention forcing out Sycamore Valley Gun Club.

Funny thing how the campus was so much safer before Mr. Brand declared it to be safe only for criminals.

I found it ironic that during the whole Bobby Knight firing fiasco that Brand's wife was able to have two IUPD officers escort her around campus and even guard her lecture hall when she was teaching. They had Physical Plant carpenters install armored doors at the Presidents house on campus and had 24/7 armed guards there, even though they were staying in Indy. Yet the student that triggered that whole incident at Assembly Hall got no police protection at all and wasn't allowed to carry a weapon for his own defense. He ended up moving out of state due to death threats.

IU is so much safer now that I can't sit at my desk and clean the .22 pistol that I shot at the Union range bullseye league during lunch.

 

[cosermann]

Sad part of IU is that under the student union building is one of the best indoor ranges ever built. But a jerk IU president shut it down because he didn't think it looked good seeing students walking around campus with rifles or shotguns over their shoulders.

Funny thing how the campus was so much safer before Mr. Brand declared it to be safe only for criminals.

+1 and reps coming your way for knowing the score. I try to never miss an opportunity to underscore the history on this.

Up to the mid-90's, IU faculty/staff/students COULD CARRY their legally licensed handguns on campus. The "no-guns policy" (and it's just that, an IU policy - has no force of law) was changed/instituted under Brand.

TIME TO RECIND THIS FAILED POLICY, which BTW, does NOTHING to curb non-IU folks, i.e. the public at large, from carrying under a LTCH on campus, but only serves to DISARM IU's own people.

 

[abrumlev]

I spend several hours a week in the Student Union. Where was/is this famed shooting range? I can't think of anything lower in the builder than the bowling alley/food courts/hotel.

Yeah it is disappointing....I'm sitting in the library as I type this and walking here I saw an IU cop witness two cars race down 10th street and he did nothing.

I love the town but their damn liberal agenda is killing me.

 

[indykid]

If I remember my bearings correctly, on the west side of the building, north side of that wall you will see a set of steel doors with no windows. Those were the entrance to the facility. You will notice a huge air handling set of grills on the north face, again the north west corner.

Amazing how much room you can hide underground, and especially under a major building!

 

[sj kahr k40]

Not all;

The sad thing is that if she used it as a weapon she would probably be expelled for it.

 

[abrumlev]

Dyslexia's a B---- haha.

I'll look for it tomorrow on my way to class. I've thought about starting a IU Competitive shooting team and eventually try to get the range opened back up.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Where was/is this famed shooting range?

You are talking about the indoor range?

It was under the Union stairs, enter off Dunn Meadow.

 

[EPD1102]

Sad part of IU is that under the student union building is one of the best indoor ranges ever built. But a jerk IU president shut it down because he didn't think it looked good seeing students walking around campus with rifles or shotguns over their shoulders.

Funny thing how the campus was so much safer before Mr. Brand declared it to be safe only for criminals.

I graduated from I.U. but never knew that. Do they allow the campus cops to use it at least?

 

[bwframe]

The sad thing is that if she used it as a weapon she would probably be expelled for it.

If she was attacked? I certainly doubt it.

 

[sj kahr k40]

If she was attacked? I certainly doubt it.

It's a weapon if she uses it as a weapon, their rules are really clear about weapons, had a friend that withdrew from IU after macing an attacker to avoid being throw out.

I rather be alive and expelled from school then hurt or dead though.

 

[kevinj110]

I graduated from I.U. but never knew that. Do they allow the campus cops to use it at least?

No the last I knew they went to Bedford to train. I am so glad I got out of that town. Too bad wifes family is way to Bloomington.