VIDEO - Officers threatens to execute Ohio CCW holder

[Wwwildthing]

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[henktermaat]

You're right..
But when you extend unreasonable hatred to all LEO's you just contribute to the overall problem.

First, "unreasonable hatred," if that is what I have, is my right.
Second, There is no possible way I can "extend" it to all LEOs.

I realize you're the "why can't we all just get along" type, but I am not interested in your smiles and rainbows right now.

 

[CalebToNowhere]

Video Shows Ohio Cop Grow Irate During Arrest - FoxNews.com

Thanks. Glad to see it was picked up by National Media, especially Fox News.

 

[UncleMike]

this is not the first time a cop has made public comments like that. his attitude has been showing up alot with many other leo. they want us to trust them and be thier friends but someone like that is not to be trusted or a friend.

You don't condem an entire group for the actions of a few.
Not every Black man belongs to the Black Panthers.
Not every White man belongs to the KKK.
Not every gun owner is a Jared Lee Loughner.
Not every Muslim is a Nidal Hasan.
Not every Cop is a JBT.
Generalization only hurt the good people in every group.

 

[SirRealism]

Something that I've often heard from the LEO's perspective is, "We don't know what kind of person we're dealing with when we approach a car." Neither do we... and the more often I see this type of stuff, the less likely I am to speak to a cop or help out. I'm sorry, but that's just a fact.

I liken it to how gas station grifters have made it less likely I'll help someone with a sob story. I've seen far too many bad outcomes, and I'm on guard.

Because of pieces of excrement like this guy (and, evidently, the cops posting on the other forum mentioned up-thread), the job of good cops is more difficult. It has nothing to do with lumping people together or "generalizing". It has everything to do with self-preservation.

 

[henktermaat]

Because of pieces of excrement like this guy (and, evidently, the cops posting on the other forum mentioned up-thread), the jobs of good cops is more difficult. It has nothing to do with lumping people together or "generalizing". It has everything to do with self-preservation.

Bingo!

 

[UncleMike]

First, "unreasonable hatred," if that is what I have, is my right.
Second, There is no possible way I can "extend" it to all LEOs.

I realize you're the "why can't we all just get along" type, but I am not interested in your smiles and rainbows right now.

Never mind!

 

[henktermaat]

You don't condem an entire group for the actions of a few.
Not every Black man belongs to the Black Panthers.
Not every White man belongs to the KKK.
Not every gun owner is a Jared Lee Loughner.
Not every Muslim is a Nidal Hasan.
Not every Cop is a JBT.
Generalization only hurt the good people in every group.

I call . What hurts the group is the actions of the few in the group, not "generalizations."

It's like you're channeling Jane Fonda. I never took you for the type, Mike.

 

[MTC]

The video is extremely damaging to the image and reputation of police officers.

David Hardy has a very interesting take on the case...

Of Arms and the Law: Further thoughts on the Canton shocker

Agree with his view. Thanks for the link.

This situation could have VERY EASILY escalated to murder, and this was even mentioned by the officer. I viewed that cop as borderline out-of-control. For you to say that someone who witnessed such an obvious miscarriage of justice happening and possibly attempting to intervene "would surely deserve prosecution for doing so" helps to clarify the rift between many of us "common citizens" and many of you in the "justice business". Prosecution for what, I ask? What good does a courtroom setting do the victim and his family if he is dead at the hands of an aggressor acting illegally who could have been stopped by a "by-stander"? What if a cop, in uniform, is molesting your daughter or wife, do we just not intervene and let the courts handle it? Just curious ......

Agree. It does exist. Cops aren't the only ones who have had their profession infiltrated by condescending, arrogant asses who get their kicks out of (and get paid for) violating the rights of the people, or collude with those who pass ridiculous statutes to extort from anyone ensnared by them.

 

[serpicostraight]

You don't condem an entire group for the actions of a few.
Not every Black man belongs to the Black Panthers.
Not every White man belongs to the KKK.
Not every gun owner is a Jared Lee Loughner.
Not every Muslim is a Nidal Hasan.
Not every Cop is a JBT.
Generalization only hurt the good people in every group.

there are alot of good cops out there no doubt about that. and im sure most people myself included appreciate the great job they are doing. but the actions of a few are growing at alarming rates. incidents like this are becoming the norm anymore and its high time it stopped. i can remember a time when cops really was good people they went after bad guys and if you wasnt a bad guy you had nothing to worry about. the cops out there now are to scared to actually approach bad guys so they have to try and make a criminal out of whoever they feel they can intimidate. they whine about criminals getting off on a technicality and yet most of thier arrests come from technicalitys. it used to be easy to spot the bad guys they was the one committing a crime but these days in the cops eyes there are only cops and scumbags. if you dont have a badge youre a scumbag.

 

[SirRealism]

I call . What hurts the group is the actions of the few in the group, not "generalizations."

It's like you're channeling Jane Fonda. I never took you for the type, Mike.

I agree with the first part. What is it with the word "generalize" any more? It seem to be the new "racist".

The part about Jane Fonda? That's low.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Video Shows Ohio Cop Grow Irate During Arrest - FoxNews.com

The Foxnews site said he was charged with a traffic violation. Are they nuts? He was parked, what is the violation? possibly being executed by a cop that gives all cops a black eye.

See what I did there?

 

[SirRealism]

So here's a question that I haven't seen addressed. How would a private entity have obtained the dashcam video? Surely it couldn't have been an FoIA request... wouldn't that take much longer?

 

[Scutter01]

So here's a question that I haven't seen addressed. How would a private entity have obtained the dashcam video? Surely it couldn't have been an FoIA request... wouldn't that take much longer?

The victim's lawyer released it, according to OHCC.

 

[Wwwildthing]

The Canton newspaper had the following...

Harless, 45, an Ohio native and former Marine worked as a police officer in Virginia for four years before coming to Canton in 1996.

During his career he has earned several commendations.

One was from a Virginia judge, who praised the way Harless handled a situation involving a man with a gun, according to records in his city personnel file.

Canton’s internal affairs unit has investigated 16 complaints involving Harless dating back to 2000.

He was reprimanded in one 2003 case. Harless and another officer were exonerated of using excessive force, but were given a letter of reprimand for not activating the in-car video camera at the scene per department policy.

 

[Jack Burton]

So here's a question that I haven't seen addressed. How would a private entity have obtained the dashcam video? Surely it couldn't have been an FoIA request... wouldn't that take much longer?

A defense attorney is an officer of the court, the same as the prosecuting attorney and judge. One of the nice parts of our legal system is that the prosecution must share with the defense any evidence or exculpatory material.

 

[iChokePeople]

The Canton newspaper had the following...


He was reprimanded in one 2003 case. Harless and another officer were exonerated of using excessive force, but were given a letter of reprimand for not activating the in-car video camera at the scene per department policy"

It was just a mistake. Faulty "record" button. Oopsie. My bad.

 

[Wwwildthing]

It was just a mistake. Faulty "record" button. Oopsie. My bad.

I was more concerned with this... Canton’s internal affairs unit has investigated 16 complaints involving Harless dating back to 2000.

 

[Jack Burton]

Video Shows Ohio Cop Grow Irate During Arrest - FoxNews.com

I wonder if the mayor and police chief lay awake at night for the past several weeks, knowing this was coming like a freight train with no brakes, or did they somehow hope and pray that it was going to miraculously pass them by.

Wish we had a hidden camera going on during some the discussions between the town leaders the past few days.

 

[iChokePeople]

Has the mayor chimed in? Have I missed that?