Home invasion

[printcraft]

...........when will you take time to enjoy life instead of being constantly on-guard?

There is a huge difference between being a proud gun owner and exercising your right to own and carry, and crossing that line into being entirely over reactive and living your life like you have to be prepared for Vietnam in your living room in 1.5 seconds flat.

 

[churchmouse]

who would have thought the reasonable laid back approach would be treated as a foreign idea on INGO? lol

if you guys all are "omg I can't imagine for a minute not having a gun on my person in my own home", what the heck do you do when you are in the middle of a massive crowd of strangers at a water park or similar where you can't even carry?

what are you doing then? getting all Chuck Norris on every guy who walks by your wife and kids as if he is about to harm your family for walking within 5 feet of them? how do you ever relax? when will you take time to enjoy life instead of being constantly on-guard?

There is a huge difference between being a proud gun owner and exercising your right to own and carry, and crossing that line into being entirely over reactive and living your life like you have to be prepared for Vietnam in your living room in 1.5 seconds flat.

It may seem as though we are all on pins and needles 24/7. Some are. I have a wonderful time in this world with family and friends when I choose to venture out into it. I am constantly vigilant and aware of my surroundings even with out my carry piece nearby. My family is aware that I do not let much slip past me and they have learned to be just as vigilant without loosing their composer. It is the apples to oranges comparison shown above. Life is all to be held in perspective. How I per-sieve it is apparently different than you do and that is ok.

 

[Dead Duck]

24/7/365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, and 46 seconds - Forgot about Leap Year.

Can't think of the last time I've been unarmed. Even in the "Gun Free Zones". Why risk it.

I Carry For The Children!

 

[printcraft]

I was honestly thinking these forums would be full of mostly level headed, reasonable people. There is absolutely nothing reasonable about having to have your gun on you 24/7/365 and having multiple guns scattered around the house unless you live somewhere where you are literally at risk of an armed attack at all times, in which case my initial reaction still stands, move.

Let me google that for you

The odds of getting into some sort of confrontation with one of the "hair trigger" type of attitudes displayed here is greater than some random guy attempting to walk in my house. Hell, the more time I spend here the more I want to carry all the time, just because of what some of the members post here, not because of the majority of society, which is the opposite reason I began to carry. It has really opened my eyes as to how many people out there are toting guns ready to draw for any little reason. It's like they are walking around looking for a reason to draw down instead of going about typical normal life.

 

[jamesg]

It may seem as though we are all on pins and needles 24/7. Some are. I have a wonderful time in this world with family and friends when I choose to venture out into it. I am constantly vigilant and aware of my surroundings even with out my carry piece nearby. My family is aware that I do not let much slip past me and they have learned to be just as vigilant without loosing their composer. It is the apples to oranges comparison shown above. Life is all to be held in perspective. How I per-sieve it is apparently different than you do and that is ok.

very well thought out response, props to you sir

 

[travisf]

When I bought my first gun I was having those dreams too, over time they quit.

 

[J_Wales]

I was honestly thinking these forums would be full of mostly level headed, reasonable people.

This forum IS full of level headed, reasonable people. Dont worry though, you are welcome!

Welcome to INGO.

The protection of your family, yourself, and your property is an individual responsibility. You are free to address that responsibility however you choose. I really could not care less.

That said, there is no reason to disparage others that choose to be more responsible than you.

Good luck to you! I wish you well.

 

[J_Wales]

24/7/365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, and 46 seconds - Forgot about Leap Year.

Can't think of the last time I've been unarmed. Even in the "Gun Free Zones". Why risk it.

I Carry For The Children!

Amen! Do it for the children!

 

[jamesg]

This forum IS full of level headed, reasonable people. Dont worry though, you are welcome!

Welcome to INGO.

The protection of your family, yourself, and your property is an individual responsibility. You are free to address that responsibility however you choose. I really could not care less.

That said, there is no reason to disparage others that choose to be more responsible than you.

Good luck to you! I wish you well.

The problem with that reply is that you imply i am somehow less than responsible by owning and having a loaded firearm in my home, but choosing not to "John Wayne" it around the house like I need it in less than 1 second. You imply that walking around the house strapped is "more responsible". To that I say absolutely not. It's unnecessary unless you live in an area that dictates it.

Where do you draw the line? You (no not literally you) walk around in public cocked and loaded, with the attitude that everybody is a potential enemy, practicing your draw, so that in a seconds notice you can be firing hot lead. That's a bit extreme for most people. That's what I am a bit worried about. SO many people here seem to be borderline mad, like a hair trigger ready to blow, looking for a reason.....

That kind of attitude has no place in responsible gun ownership IMO. That goes beyond exercising your right to own and carry. Those people are more the reason I choose to carry than any other reason. The ones that claim themselves to be in the know and right by law but who live like it's Armageddon now. It is possible to exercise your right to own and carry without being a hair trigger mad man.

 

[J_Wales]

Have a smile for everyone you meet......

 

[printcraft]

So, if someone carries while at home they are a hair trigger mad man..... got it.

 

[jamesg]

So, if someone carries while at home they are a hair trigger mad man..... got it.

no, but hair triggered mad men carry 24/7/365.......here's what I will grant you....in more cases than not, someone who carries 24/7/365 is more likely to make a snap judgement to fire unnecessarily than someone who has to take the time to asses the situation and has to take a few seconds to go get their weapon, thereby perhaps having time to get a more in depth understanding of the threat

 

[J_Wales]

.... and a plan to kill them.
Thor, B.

 

[the1kidd03]

what the heck do you do when you are in the middle of a massive crowd of strangers at a water park or similar where you can't even carry?

you don't, for those who are uncomfortable in such a situation I doubt they choose to take part in a water park or similar activity

what are you doing then? getting all Chuck Norris on every guy who walks by your wife and kids as if he is about to harm your family for walking within 5 feet of them? how do you ever relax? when will you take time to enjoy life instead of being constantly on-guard?

you are clearly unaware of what's known in the defensive world as "situational awareness" (SA)....you may relax, you can be relaxed at all times, but that doesn't stop you from scanning for potential threats, odd/suspicious activity, being aware of your surroundings such as exits, number of people, etc,etc,etc

The odds of getting into some sort of confrontation with one of the "hair trigger" type of attitudes displayed here is greater than some random guy attempting to walk in my house.

speeking from personal experience, I can say that you are VERY wrong here....having had to clear a home MULTIPLE times...and one instance of having a random "gangster" wannabe running from someone that was after him barging into my grandmother's home while she was alone with me, but I was a child at the time....and your general assumption categorizing all gun owners as "hair triggers" is not only illfounded in ignorance, but also counter-productive for promoting a pro-2a attitude with the general public and thus not well received on this forum IMO

Hell, the more time I spend here the more I want to carry all the time, just because of what some of the members post here, not because of the majority of society, which is the opposite reason I began to carry. It has really opened my eyes as to how many people out there are toting guns ready to draw for any little reason. It's like they are walking around looking for a reason to draw down instead of going about typical normal life.

more ignorance perpetuating false assumptions about gun owners in general

There is a huge difference between being a proud gun owner and exercising your right to own and carry, and crossing that line into being entirely over reactive and living your life like you have to be prepared for Vietnam in your living room in 1.5 seconds flat.

there is also a line between "over reactive" and prepared for real life occurrances.....you clearly do not understand the difference...whereas being prepared for potential situations is nothing like being "over reactive" to an occurring situation.......I can't remember locations to cite exact numbers, but majority of attacks take place in far less than 5 minutes and from a distance of less than 20 feet....I hate to break it to you, but you cannot draw your weapon from a holster faster than about 1.5 seconds...let alone get to a room/car where you store your weapon to defend yourself....any officer, military, person who takes their safety seriously will tell you that you are naive to think you are exempt from attack even in your home...and I'm sure any number of persons on this forum can cite numerous occasions of attacks which you clearly think "do not happen" or "wouldn't happen to you"...as many victims in this country have learned quite the opposite from experience.....if anything you should feel lucky to NOT have become one of those statistics YET

I was honestly thinking these forums would be full of mostly level headed, reasonable people.

there are, clearly you enjoy your utopia and are not one of them

There is absolutely nothing reasonable about having to have your gun on you 24/7/365 and having multiple guns scattered around the house unless you live somewhere where you are literally at risk of an armed attack at all times, in which case my initial reaction still stands, move.

so you can clearly hear your front door and every possible entry point when you're in the shower? you clearly can tell by looking at the outside of your home that a violent intruder broke in through the back window? point is you cannot predict everything, thinking that you can is ignorant....that's why people prepare for possibilities....if you don't value your safety enough to prepare for such possibilities, then that's your choice...but don't be so ignorant/naive as to criticize others for taking precautions in the interest of their safety, it not only makes you look ignorant to those who live in the real world, but it makes Veterans like myself saddened to think that we risk our lives for people like you, only for them to abuse their 1st amendment rights to criticize others for exercising theirs .........if you don't take your safety seriously enough to prepare, FINE...that's your opinion...but don't criticize others for taking precautions you don't agree with 7 P's (Proper Prior Planning Prevents **** Poor Performance)....

I emplore you to continue to take part in this forum and provide VALUABLE input or CONSTRUCTIVE criticism......NOT ignorant assumption based generalizations which give the rest of gun owners a bad name

 

[J_Wales]

you don't, for those who are uncomfortable in such a situation I doubt they choose to take part in a water park or similar activity


you are clearly unaware of what's known in the defensive world as "situational awareness" (SA)....you may relax, you can be relaxed at all times, but that doesn't stop you from scanning for potential threats, odd/suspicious activity, being aware of your surroundings such as exits, number of people, etc,etc,etc


speeking from personal experience, I can say that you are VERY wrong here....having had to clear a home MULTIPLE times...and one instance of having a random "gangster" wannabe running from someone that was after him barging into my grandmother's home while she was alone with me, but I was a child at the time....and your general assumption categorizing all gun owners as "hair triggers" is not only illfounded in ignorance, but also counter-productive for promoting a pro-2a attitude with the general public and thus not well received on this forum IMO


more ignorance perpetuating false assumptions about gun owners in general


there is also a line between "over reactive" and prepared for real life occurrances.....you clearly do not understand the difference...whereas being prepared for potential situations is nothing like being "over reactive" to an occurring situation.......I can't remember locations to cite exact numbers, but majority of attacks take place in far less than 5 minutes and from a distance of less than 20 feet....I hate to break it to you, but you cannot draw your weapon from a holster faster than about 1.5 seconds...let alone get to a room/car where you store your weapon to defend yourself....any officer, military, person who takes their safety seriously will tell you that you are naive to think you are exempt from attack even in your home...and I'm sure any number of persons on this forum can cite numerous occasions of attacks which you clearly think "do not happen" or "wouldn't happen to you"...as many victims in this country have learned quite the opposite from experience.....if anything you should feel lucky to NOT have become one of those statistics YET


there are, clearly you enjoy your utopia and are not one of them



so you can clearly hear your front door and every possible entry point when you're in the shower? you clearly can tell by looking at the outside of your home that a violent intruder broke in through the back window? point is you cannot predict everything, thinking that you can is ignorant....that's why people prepare for possibilities....if you don't value your safety enough to prepare for such possibilities, then that's your choice...but don't be so ignorant/naive as to criticize others for taking precautions in the interest of their safety, it not only makes you look ignorant to those who live in the real world, but it makes Veterans like myself saddened to think that we risk our lives for people like you, only for them to abuse their 1st amendment rights to criticize others for exercising theirs .........if you don't take your safety seriously enough to prepare, FINE...that's your opinion...but don't criticize others for taking precautions you don't agree with 7 P's (Proper Prior Planning Prevents **** Poor Performance)....

I emplore you to continue to take part in this forum and provide VALUABLE input or CONSTRUCTIVE criticism......NOT ignorant assumption based generalizations which give the rest of gun owners a bad name

AMEN and WELL SAID.

 

[the1kidd03]

Where do you draw the line?

you draw the line at your personal preference and you obviously have a VERY different one than most people on this site

You (no not literally you) walk around in public cocked and loaded, with the attitude that everybody is a potential enemy, practicing your draw, so that in a seconds notice you can be firing hot lead. That's a bit extreme for most people.

SOME people

That's what I am a bit worried about. SO many people here seem to be borderline mad, like a hair trigger ready to blow, looking for a reason.....

more assumptions...which leads me to believe that you are VERY mis-informed and have a serious LACK in proper firearms training for self defense......preparation for highly potential criminal attack is NOT mad, that is your assumption based stereotyping

That kind of attitude has no place in responsible gun ownership IMO. That goes beyond exercising your right to own and carry. Those people are more the reason I choose to carry than any other reason. The ones that claim themselves to be in the know and right by law but who live like it's Armageddon now. It is possible to exercise your right to own and carry without being a hair trigger mad man.

1st, WHO are you to criticize someone else's FREE CHOICE...last I checked, I fight for a country which allow people to make their own choices......besides that, all of the information you present like "firing hot lead" and basing your entire argument on assumptions indicates to me that you MAY be a responsible gun owner, but that's NOT to say the rest are not....a responsible gun owner can carry 24/7 and prepare for the likliest of potential attacks....what makes the difference between responsible and not...is WHEN and WHY the person chooses to utilize their weapon...NOT when they wish to carry it.......this fact is just further evidence of your general LACK of knowledge on gun ownership in Indiana...and so I say that you should stick around and pay closer attention to more posts before criticizing anyone...assuming of course that you're not some whacked-out ANTI who came here to present their disagreement with our 2nd amendment, which I am more inclined to believe than the prior....I could be wrong, and in which case again I emplore you to stick around and listen before attacking the beliefs of the majority of members to this site...so that then at least you have an EDUCATED difference in opinion

 

[jamesg]

the1kidd03,

i read your post, and then put you on my ignore list, because i am not going to take part in debating every sentence of a post individually...out of context...but i will respond to you this once on the last part

no nevermind, you aren't worth it, bye

 

[the1kidd03]

the1kidd03,

i read your post, and then put you on my ignore list, because i am not going to take part in debating every sentence of a post individually...out of context...but i will respond to you this once on the last part

no nevermind, you aren't worth it, bye

I didn't know you can ignore here?!?! lol sweet

and, what did I "take out of context"... ..nothing that I can see...merely broke it up to address each of your false logic points

that's ok...apparently logic and constitutional rights just don't make sense to you...

everyone else can read my quality posts..and that's all that matters ....that way they don't have believe the you're typing


butthurt anybody?

thank you come again!

 

[mrortega]

"Can't we all just get along?"

 

[the1kidd03]

"Can't we all just get along?"

I can....but apparently truth and logic aren't acceptable