Ccl 3 yrs now.. Dad freaked out when I showed him my hollow points

[JettaKnight]

Another use....

Hollow points allow you to put some bacon bits in them and seal the opening with wax You can prevent terrorists from getting the 72 Virgins if you ever get into a gunfight with them...........

I like to fill'em with ricin!

 

[netsecurity]

I would assume that OP's dad was referring to the 'Geneva Convention' aka rules of war. Enlisted men are technically not allowed to USS anything but FMJ.

(I'm pretty certain snipers and special forces do not give a crap about these rules, since they basically have a license to kill on order, and that they pick whatever clandestine weapons systems necessary to overwhelm the enemy).

 

[Kirk Freeman]

My shenanigans are cheeky and fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwNjtyKO92A

 

[Snavelybob]

Thx guys like always .. I got what I needed ...ltch.... Ill put that in the future, just put out a quick post, I don't see my dad much. was bragging on ingo ...google/safari was ALL OVER THE PLACE. Ingo was dead on.

 

[patience0830]

Thx guys like always .. I got what I needed ...ltch.... Ill put that in the future, just put out a quick post, I don't see my dad much. was bragging on ingo ...google/safari was ALL OVER THE PLACE. Ingo was dead on.

We try. Harder.

 

[Snavelybob]

Seriously thx..

 

[Snavelybob]

Thanks for the vid freeman.. Great movie

 

[actaeon277]

Oh, and I think the reason everyone specifies LTCH vs CCL, besides one is right, is that a Concealed Carry License implies you can only carry CONCEALED.

Indiana doesn't care.
Therefore it is a License To Carry Handgun. No mention of open or conceal. Just like the Indiana Code.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Oh, and I think the reason everyone specifies LTCH vs CCL, besides one is right, is that a Concealed Carry License implies you can only carry CONCEALED.

Well, my concern that snave was out of state (Munice, possible Ball State student) since he he speaking furinner "CCL". A third way hollowpoints COULD be illegal is if the term of his out of state license specified "no hollow points" pursuant to Indiana Code 35-47-2-21(b).*


*I am unaware of any state that has such a condition.

 

[Snavelybob]

Hummm I honestly didn't know that, I can carry my handgun out in the open?? I've always wondered.. I've lived in5 states through my military career, assumed I had to wear a long shirt

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Look at the carry statute in 35-47-2-1. You will not find the word "concealed" within it.

 

[mrjarrell]

So, Kirk, what does IC say about Nylon coated bullets, (if anything). Are Nyclads OK in Indiana or verbotten? I used to love Federal Nyclads, in .357. Unfortunately, now all they make is .38's.

 

[longbow]

That's the guy.

.....49 minutes and I'll update what is happening

 

[Kirk Freeman]

So, Kirk, what does IC say about Nylon coated bullets, (if anything). Are Nyclads OK in Indiana or verbotten? I used to love Federal Nyclads, in .357. Unfortunately, now all they make is .38's.

No, you cool.

Let's look at the statute and the specific exemption for Nyclads.

IC 35-47-5-11
"Armor-piercing handgun ammunition" defined; related offenses
Sec. 11. (a) As used in this section, "armor-piercing handgun ammunition" means a cartridge that:
(1) can be fired in a handgun; and
(2) will, upon firing, expel a projectile that has a metal core and an outer coating of plastic.
(b) A person who knowingly or intentionally:
(1) manufactures;
(2) possesses;
(3) transfers possession of; or
(4) offers to transfer possession of;
armor-piercing handgun ammunition commits a Class C felony.
(c) This section does not apply to nylon coated ammunition, plastic shot capsules, or ammunition designed to be used in rifles or shotguns.
(d) This section does not apply to a law enforcement officer who is acting in the course of the officer's official duties or to a person who manufactures or imports for sale or sells armor-piercing handgun ammunition to a law enforcement agency.
As added by P.L.332-1983, SEC.1. Amended by P.L.327-1987, SEC.2.

The statute was written against the KTW round which the criminal in the Congress (another damn riddle from Freeman making me Google stuff, it's an outrage) beat the drum about and only accomplished calling attention to the fact that coppers wear armor.

There is lots of stuff sold that will defeat armor but armor can defeat all rounds (sort of tank/anti-tank thing going on). And Indiana's statute only impacts the tired old KTW round and not the super cool stuff that is available now but, as you know, the law is an a**.

 

[Snavelybob]

Just another question.. Can I carry my shotgun loaded in my truck, or my ar loaded?? Not that I do or would... Another friendly argument I've had with family and friends. I would love to know.

I'm a noob to ingo but I shoot 2 times a week... I believe I shouldn't carry something I'm not proficient with....

 

[djhuckle]

Hummm I honestly didn't know that, I can carry my handgun out in the open?? I've always wondered.. I've lived in5 states through my military career, assumed I had to wear a long shirt

Quite possibly the most discussed and argued topic on this site.

Carry Issues and Self Defense - INGunOwners

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Just another question.. Can I carry my shotgun loaded in my truck, or my ar loaded??

As a general rule, yes. Load up the entire gun collection and take them for a drive in the country. No statute against such a drive. In fact, more than several INGO members carry long guns in their personal vehicles.

Remember, this depends on where you are: You could not go to school property so if you have to go see Suzy Q's play, park off school grounds.

Also, depends on what you are doing, e.g. jacklighting deer (no go under most circumstances).

 

[actaeon277]

Just another question.. Can I carry my shotgun loaded in my truck, or my ar loaded?? Not that I do or would... Another friendly argument I've had with family and friends. I would love to know.

I'm a noob to ingo but I shoot 2 times a week... I believe I shouldn't carry something I'm not proficient with....

Yes
and Yes

Some considerations though.
Risk of theft when rifle/shotgun left in vehicle unattended.
As for loaded, Kirk has a "my shotgun went off" story you may want to hear.
But do what you want. You have to look at options, weigh them, listen to people, then DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU.

 

[Snavelybob]

No bad intentions, just don't believe in a worthless firearm..

 

[actaeon277]

Oh, as Kirk said, watch out for "no gun areas".