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  • craigkim

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    The PPQ is an excellent gun and probably has the best trigger of all right out of the box with no mods.
    It's easy to carry inside the pants because it has a more triangular shaped slide.
    However, there are not many holsters and aftermarket goodies for it like other guns... like Glocks.
    Glocks are awesome too. Can't go wrong with a 23 or a 19. same exact size gun, different calibers.
    They are extremely reliable and durable, cheap, and the easiest of all guns to get holsters, mags, and aftermarket goodies.... except for maybe the 1911... maybe

    PPQ M2 or Glock 19 gets my vote too with Glock 30s being my third choice.
     

    tlandon

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    M&P Compact 22. 11 rounds in your face in 2 seconds. Stops em every time! Cheap to practice with. We don't live in Kabul and you will never do anything with your carry gun except kill paper. I live in reality not a fictional war zone.
     

    tlandon

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    You must be new here......
    I dont live in Kandahar. I dont need a 20rd 9mm with two extra magazines to drop you. If you need that kind of firepower you're living in the wrong part of the city and/or need to rethink the areas you visit. When will you people learn that size only matters in male organs and bank accounts. Placement is all that matters.
     

    chezuki

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    T755

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    Tlandon…..School me on your ballistic knowledge of a 22lr stopping a human. . Bullet placement is indeed key. However a 22lr simply does not have the horsepower to reliably count on in a life or death situation. Caliber is moot once you get above a 380. Please don't pass your "knowledge" as fact for someone trying to protect themselves. Whatever round this guy wants to carry is on him and what he is comfortable with. Any quality expanding bullet will do. The key is full weight retention, 1.5x's expansion and 12-18 inches of penetration and putting those 3 things in a area where it will have maximum effect. Not 11 rounds of 22 in the face that most under stress of a life or death encounter will not be able to hit unless they train and practice for it.
     

    THE BIG SITT

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    I dont live in Kandahar. I dont need a 20rd 9mm with two extra magazines to drop you. If you need that kind of firepower you're living in the wrong part of the city and/or need to rethink the areas you visit. When will you people learn that size only matters in male organs and bank accounts. Placement is all that matters.

    Neither does anyone on this board (I think?). I'm not exactly sure why Afgans require something more to put them down than Hoosiers, but I digress.

    Feel free to aim your 22lr at the head, and get all 11 shots in target in, what, 2 seconds you said? Meanwhile, I will take my 9MM or 40, take two shots to the chest, and then evaluate the threat further.

    To each their own, and here's to neither of us finding out if our method is best :cheers::alcoholic:
     

    tlandon

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    Tlandon…..School me on your ballistic knowledge of a 22lr stopping a human. . Bullet placement is indeed key. However a 22lr simply does not have the horsepower to reliably count on in a life or death situation. Caliber is moot once you get above a 380. Please don't pass your "knowledge" as fact for someone trying to protect themselves. Whatever round this guy wants to carry is on him and what he is comfortable with. Any quality expanding bullet will do. The key is full weight retention, 1.5x's expansion and 12-18 inches of penetration and putting those 3 things in a area where it will have maximum effect. Not 11 rounds of 22 in the face that most under stress of a life or death encounter will not be able to hit unless they train and practice for it.

    "Stopping power is a marketing tool and should be dropped from our discussions of ballistic performance until such time as ammunition effectiveness is measured by more means than just the results of gelatin and barrier tests. When ammunition companies or regulatory agencies begin to use computer simulations, simulant tests, animal models, autopsy results, and trauma surgeon operation reports with hospital summaries to determine the effectiveness of their products, then we will know which ammunition can be labeled as having the "best stopping power." And this claim will be based on scientific data rather than incomplete ballistic testing.
    Until then, shot placement with any commercially available ammunition will offer you the best chance of maximizing your duty ammunition's stopping power".
     

    T755

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    "Stopping power is a marketing tool and should be dropped from our discussions of ballistic performance until such time as ammunition effectiveness is measured by more means than just the results of gelatin and barrier tests. When ammunition companies or regulatory agencies begin to use computer simulations, simulant tests, animal models, autopsy results, and trauma surgeon operation reports with hospital summaries to determine the effectiveness of their products, then we will know which ammunition can be labeled as having the "best stopping power." And this claim will be based on scientific data rather than incomplete ballistic testing.
    Until then, shot placement with any commercially available ammunition will offer you the best chance of maximizing your duty ammunition's stopping power".


    Thats funny, thats what I do for a living. I don't live in a computer world. I get the front row seat to see what bullets do to people and occasionally animals. I see the real data and unfortunately the results. The real world does not support your theory in practical application. But good try cutting and pasting something off the internet and putting quotes around it. Ed Sanow called he wants his flawed data back on 22lr one shot stops.
     

    dtkw

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    Your best carrying gun is the one you can shoot well and comfortable to carry. For me my Bronwing Hi Power,and Sig P229 both I can shoot well and those are what I carry. Different day different gun.
     

    NightmareOne

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    "Stopping power is a marketing tool and should be dropped from our discussions of ballistic performance until such time as ammunition effectiveness is measured by more means than just the results of gelatin and barrier tests. When ammunition companies or regulatory agencies begin to use computer simulations, simulant tests, animal models, autopsy results, and trauma surgeon operation reports with hospital summaries to determine the effectiveness of their products, then we will know which ammunition can be labeled as having the "best stopping power." And this claim will be based on scientific data rather than incomplete ballistic testing.
    Until then, shot placement with any commercially available ammunition will offer you the best chance of maximizing your duty ammunition's stopping power".
    I'll take a .45 and not have any doubt that it will stop 'em. Thanks.
    Col
     

    NightmareOne

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    I know im going to get both eventually but i need to figure out which one i want to carry so i can start pricing the one and start carrying. my two options are glock 23 gen 4 or a walther ppq. all comments are welcome really having a hard time deciding
    Pick what works best for you... The Glock will most likely always work, even if it doesn't look that great. But, it's a tool; it doesn't need to look good, just work always. The PPQ has had great reviews and is probably going to be more accurate. This is just hearsay as I have no actual trigger time on one. But, it is hearsay from people I trust. The Walther is going to have that funny mag release... Something that I see as counter-intuitive; practice would make that of no consequence though. That's about all I got; I think either one would serve you well... now it just comes down to your personal preference.
    Col
     

    Vigilant

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    The only "best carry gun", is the one you actually carry, and can use proficiently! The Wilson Combat CQB with a bazillion rounds through it with not one single failure that is in the safe when you throw on clothes to go to the CVS at 1 AM isn't the best if it is still in the safe and you opt for the micro-mini spitball gun because the 1911 is too big. Choose your gun get proficient, and carry it everywhere all the time!
     
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