Who convinced you of this? It is widely considered an excellent account of history compared with others writings of its time.
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Who convinced you of this? It is widely considered an excellent account of history compared with others writings of its time.
Again, we don't worship. We honor her. Do you not say the Hail Mary?
I also pray the Rosary, which is a gift that Mary gave us. Praying to her is not worshipping. It's honoring her.
Come on now. If anyone can have a baby while remaining a Virgin, and that baby is the Son Of GOD, wouldn't you honor her as well?
I was told that the authors of the bible were writing what the Holy Spirit told them to write. Being stupid humans as we are, they couldn't get everything right because you can't describe the Holy Spirit with mere words. So there are SOME falsities.
The Catholic Church teaches that GOD, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Trinity. Which means that they are all separate, but also all one.
Oh boy..........
Did I type something deragatory?
Because while they are all one, they are also separate.
That's where faith and belief come into play.
Nope......not at all. Carry on.
I was expecting a bit more response.
Been pretty good so far folks. Only had to loose 1 post.
And now we shift it on into Overdrive.....Charlie Ryan
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That it would make everybody happy? No. I don't. As I've already explained, it was all in jest. Even PaulF got that much.
There is one aspect of Catholicism I'd like to discuss, however.
With polytheistic religions, Hindu, Norse, Greco/Roman, etc., you tend to have one big daddy god and then a bunch of lower gods and demigods. Those lower gods tended to get assigned little snippets of daily human life and natural phenomena to rule over: i.e., the god of the sun, the god of the hearth, the goddess of childbirth, the goddess of the harvest, etc., etc. Some polytheistic religions got pretty involved with whole hierarchies of different levels of divine beings with all manner of names for the various rankings. As these gods bore the divine authority over those aspects of life and nature, it made sense that humans would pray directly to them as they had agency to act on the prayer's behalf.
With Catholicism, you don't just get the holy trinity, but also the holy see, with all of its corporeal authority. And with that authority comes the adoration, veneration, beatification, and eventual canonization of saints. Many saints, as I have come to know of them, are given patronage duties. Saint Christopher, the patron saint of travellers. Saint Jerome, the patron saint of librarians, etc., etc., and Catholics pray directly to these human souls who have entered Heaven, according to Mother Church. But why? The saints are not themselves gods. They do not receive agency to act on the mortal plain. They act as intercessors only. If I were a Catholic teenager and were being bullied, I have a choice, I can pray to god, that he do something about the bullies, or I can pray to Saint Mungo, the patron saint of those afflicted by bullies and verbal abuse to take my prayers to god for me. I guess Catholicism likes middlemen.
Here's my point. Regardless of the details of the religion, agency versus intercessation, divinity versus sainthood, I can see no meaningful, operational, functional distinction bet the idolatry of saints in Catholicism and the idolatry of pagan gods in polytheism. There does seem to be something more of the human in the Catholic saint system, whereas the pagan systems seem to be more naturalistic. There may not be a patron saint of trees, but I'm sure somewhere there's a patron saint of arborists and another for lumberjacks, so depending on whether you wanted to make the trees healthy or make them into furniture, you might have to pick your prayer intercessor with more care than just praying to Vertumnus and Pomona, the god and goddess of fruit trees.
CathyInBlue
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"God, the Father. God, the Son. God, the Holy Ghost. Three in One. One in Three. The One in the middle died for me." Protestants should all be well familiar with the concept.
CathyInBlue
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Never played high school football, didja?
CathyInBlue
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If god were human, we'd speak of him being schizophrenic or multiple personality disorder. But he's not, and we can't, so we don't.
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