San Antonio shooting

[foszoe]

San Antonio police say it's responding to active shooting scene at area mall | abc13.com

 

[gregr]

Police responding...you mean good guys with a gun? Too bad it was a gun-free zone, it may have ended better, and quicker.

 

[CraigAPS]

Police responding...you mean good guys with a gun? Too bad it was a gun-free zone, it may have ended better, and quicker.

Are you sure about the GFZ thing? From what I read, one unarmed man tried to stop the robbers and was killed. Then, a second man intervened by drawing his concealed weapon and shooting one of the robbers.

Man killed trying to stop robbery at Rolling Oaks Mall in San Antonio | WOAI

 

[KellyinAvon]

An unarmed man attempted to stop the robbery and was shot and killed. A second man pulled out his concealed weapon and shot one of the suspects. The second suspect fled the scene, shooting as he ran. Their condition has not been released.

Did the guy think he was Batman or something?

Man killed trying to stop robbery at Rolling Oaks Mall in San Antonio | WOAI

 

[KellyinAvon]

Are you sure about the GFZ thing? From what I read, one unarmed man tried to stop the robbers and was killed. Then, a second man intervened by drawing his concealed weapon and shooting one of the robbers.

Man killed trying to stop robbery at Rolling Oaks Mall in San Antonio | WOAI

Arrrggghhh!! Ninja-posted! Maybe the UNARMED guy thought he was a ninja?

 

[CraigAPS]

While it may not have been the best idea, at least he tried to help. That's something that doesn't happen too often let alone two brave, good people in the same place at the same time.

 

[CraigAPS]

Arrrggghhh!! Ninja-posted! Maybe the UNARMED guy thought he was a ninja?

Hai! I sneaky ninja!

 

[AngryRooster]

This incident should be a poster child.

Bad guys violate the rules & law doing bad things. Good guy with good intentions but lacking the proper tools tries to help, fails and loses his life trying. Good guy WITH the proper tools succeeds in taking one of the bad guys out of the fight and causes the other one to flee. I don't know how much more clear it can be.

It's a shame the first good guy lost his life trying to help.

 

[Alamo]

I wonder it if was these guys: Smash and grab robbery at jewelry store in South Park Mall | KABB

[STRIKE]Same jewelry store[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]chain[/STRIKE], different jewelry store different mall. (whoops - read too fast).

I don't go to malls often, but the ones I have been to in San Antonio have not been posted against licensed carry.

ETA: I mean posted against concealed licensed carry, South Park doesn't allow open carry.

 

[Vigilant]

Did the guy think he was Batman or something?

Man killed trying to stop robbery at Rolling Oaks Mall in San Antonio | WOAI

No, he was a man that thought more of everyone else, than himself! While I agree he should have been armed, how dare you demean him for doing the RIGHT thing?

 

[AngryRooster]

An unarmed man attempted to stop the robbery and was shot and killed. A second man pulled out his concealed weapon and shot one of the suspects. The second suspect fled the scene, shooting as he ran. Their condition has not been released.

Did the guy think he was Batman or something?

Man killed trying to stop robbery at Rolling Oaks Mall in San Antonio | WOAI

There could have been any number of reasons. We won't know until it's over what happened. He could have been backed into a corner by them, they could have been threatening a family member or someone else, one article said there was a pregnant woman that went into labor. They could have been threatening to kill her. All kinds of reasons.

 

[CraigAPS]

This incident should be a poster child.

Bad guys violate the rules & law doing bad things. Good guy with good intentions but lacking the proper tools tries to help, fails and loses his life trying. Good guy WITH the proper tools succeeds in taking one of the bad guys out of the fight and causes the other one to flee. I don't know how much more clear it can be.

It's a shame the first good guy lost his life trying to help.

It is a shame, but I think the news outlets will focus on the the bad guys with guns angle rather than the good guy with a gun who helped the situation. The good guy without a gun will be a martyr showing what bad guys with guns can do. I just hope no one else has to lose his or her life for two men's greed!

 

[KLB]

I used to work less than a mile from that mall. It isn't a bad part of town.

 

[MikeBrennan]

Property managed by Washington Prime Group, a spinoff of Simon Property Group.

Anybody want to venture a guess as to their firearms policy?

 

[indyjoe]

Looks like it is a Simon Mall with no weapon's sign. Boycott Simon Malls | Second Amendment Check

Guess the bad guys couldn't read.

 

[Bigtanker]

Hopefully it wasn't Geco45.....

 

[KellyinAvon]

No, he was a man that thought more of everyone else, than himself! While I agree he should have been armed, how dare you demean him for doing the RIGHT thing?

How dare I? That's a bit over the top. Rule #1 of a gunfight is, "Bring a gun." Multiple armed bad guys? It doesn't take much risk assessment to realize this is a bad choice. When you can choose the time and the place of the fight you can also choose not to engage.

 

[indyjoe]

Looks like they caught the non-perforated suspect after a car crash.

Active shooter at Rolling Oaks Mall in San Antonio | KTBC

 

[CraigAPS]

If you look at the link that Kelly and I both posted earlier in this thread, it's been updated with more detail than the link that Joe was so good to post. You'll see that the man who initially tired to stop the robbery and sadly lost his life was Jonathon Murphy, a retired Marine. I have to agree with SAPD chief that this whole thing was "absolutely senseless."

 

[BE Mike]

How dare I? That's a bit over the top. Rule #1 of a gunfight is, "Bring a gun." Multiple armed bad guys? It doesn't take much risk assessment to realize this is a bad choice. When you can choose the time and the place of the fight you can also choose not to engage.

Although you intend this to bash and demean the dead citizen, this type of Monday morning quarterbacking and criticism of a well-intentioned citizen reflects upon you.