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[BugI02]

What are the underlying causes of the issues these countries are having? Why are they having issues? Are they as rampant as the media sources I've read like us to believe?

Peeps emmigrating to a country and expecting the host country to accommodate them and their belief structure instead of the other way around

 

[churchmouse]

Peeps emmigrating to a country and expecting the host country to accommodate them and their belief structure instead of the other way around

This is just one of the issues I have with the current process.

 

[Denny347]

I see that someone doesn't know the difference between fear and due caution. I hope you don't roll your eyes at the officer safety bulletins at roll call as well.

180 offences on women and children refugees in just Stuttgart, Germany | World | News | Express.co.uk

Nothing to see here.

Ha, no. If I used all the "assault on cops" BS get to me, I'd never leave Rollcall for fear of a cop killer behind every corner. The fear would interfere with actually doing my job. Officer safety is important. However, 99% of the people I deal with are NOT criminals. I have to balance officer safety. Otherwise I'd take every stolen cellphone report with my rifle at the low ready in case the caller wants to set me up to hurt me. I will use basic officer safety but I will always be friendly and open to the public. That's a risk I take. Such as life. I do not not fear the unknown, do not fear the public, do not fear criminals.

 

[Route 45]

However, 99% of the people I deal with are NOT criminals. I have to balance officer safety. Otherwise I'd take every stolen cellphone report with my rifle at the low ready in case the caller wants to set me up to hurt me. I will use basic officer safety but I will always be friendly and open to the public. That's a risk I take. Such as life. I do not not fear the unknown, do not fear the public, do not fear criminals.

Congratulations on your cushy assignment.

 

[oldpink]

Is it okay for young girls to fear unfettered immigration?
Rotherham child grooming scandal is 'tearing town apart with racial tension' - Mirror Online

 

[Expat]

Is it okay for young girls to fear unfettered immigration?
Rotherham child grooming scandal is 'tearing town apart with racial tension' - Mirror Online

it seems a small price to pay for the sake of diversity...

 

[T.Lex]

Peeps emmigrating to a country and expecting the host country to accommodate them and their belief structure instead of the other way around

Still gratifying to dance with a strawman?

In the US, this isn't a problem. Or at least, no more of a problem than it has been historically, with various immigrant communities tending to settle in together. Still no Sharia laws on the books. Far more laws reflective of Puritanism than otherwise....

 

[jamil]

Support for hate, violence and human suffering are high among Muslims specifically because they adopted Islam, a system of hate, violence and human suffering.

The "helpful guides for living" some seek to cherry pick from it were designed for the faithful army it was designed to raise up to enact the system of hate, violence and human suffering contained within.

What a clever ruse.

Do you have some statistics which quantify that? Or is this just a belief based on your world view brought by your membership in an opposing religion?

 

[oldpink]

Still gratifying to dance with a strawman?

In the US, this isn't a problem. Or at least, no more of a problem than it has been historically, with various immigrant communities tending to settle in together. Still no Sharia laws on the books. Far more laws reflective of Puritanism than otherwise....

Not a problem in the US...YET.
In Europe, it's very much a problem, and it's getting worse by the day.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Not a problem in the US...YET.
In Europe, it's very much a problem, and it's getting worse by the day.

Not having to cross an ocean is probably a big factor. It's unlikely to ever become a major issue in America on the same level as Europe.

 

[jamil]

Most religions, yes, but not all.

I could easily explain Islam's designer in plain language but it would be useless to you. Christians shouldn't need it in any plainer language than I've used so far.

Christians should immediately recognize the source and intent of Islam, it's quite simple and blatantly obvious.

Try me. I am well versed with Christian languge.

 

[Hkindiana]

Not having to cross an ocean is probably a big factor. It's unlikely to ever become a major issue in America on the same level as Europe.

Do you HONESTLY believe that if the US imported the same number of immegrants as Europe has, that we would not have The SAME problems?

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Do you HONESTLY believe that if the US imported the same number of immegrants as Europe has, that we would not have The SAME problems?

That would be an extraordinary amount. I can't imagine the US importing immigrants on that level.

The population of the US is about five-fold of Germany... so it would have to be even more to get to a similar ratio.

I dunno, there are just so many factors in this, it's difficult to simplify it how we're doing here. Culture, populace, society, acceptance, tolerance, laws, etc... these things are pretty different with the US and Europe.

That's not to say there are places in the US that would love to be more like Europe... but right now, the US is probably more of an "attack" target than a "commit a lot of crime" situation like in Germany. They wouldn't get away with that here.

 

[T.Lex]

Do you HONESTLY believe that if the US imported the same number of immegrants as Europe has, that we would not have The SAME problems?

Well, we haven't. We don't plan on it. So, I'm not sure what the problem is, other than hypothetical.

It may come as a surprise, but post-9/11, EVEN under Obama (and it pains me to admit it), the professionals involved in screening immigrants have done a darn good job. They haven't been perfect, but that's what they strive for.

 

[jamil]

There is a difference between reactions to unbased fear and reactions to real events. As I've said repeatedly, Islam has a serious problem with violent radicals. That's not to say all or even most Muslims are radicals but enough are that they are a global threat. It's not unbase fear to react to all that. But many overstate the threat to include all muslims without providing evidence that all muslims are a threat.

 

[ATM]

Try me. I am well versed with Christian languge.

It's not a language problem that precludes you from grasping this, or lack of data mining. It's far simpler than any of that.

 

[jamil]

It's not a language problem that precludes you from grasping this, or lack of data mining. It's far simpler than any of that.

How would you know? I understand the faith quite well. In fact I know what you're referring to. I just want you to come out and say it. Why obfuscate? Lay it out there, man.

 

[hog slayer]

Do you have some statistics which quantify that? Or is this just a belief based on your world view brought by your membership in an opposing religion?

It really isn't impossible at all to validate the violence in the Quran. I think I've done a fair job of showing it, but instead of any intellectual discussion on how I've read the book incorrectly or out of context the topic moves to "1.8 billion can't be wrong."

 

[ArcadiaGP]

It really isn't impossible at all to validate the violence in the Quran. I think I've done a fair job of showing it, but instead of any intellectual discussion on how I've read the book incorrectly or out of context the topic moves to "1.8 billion can't be wrong."

Do we see 1.8 billion people behaving violently in the name of religion?

No? Alright, I think we've proven that Not All Muslims ™ use Islam for violence.

We're also speaking third-hand about a large group of people, in a very blanket manner, that we don't personally know or interact with for the most part.

We have some representatives here on INGO that have been happy to share their experience on the subject... but of course they're being disrespected and challenged on their religion.

 

[hog slayer]

There is a difference between reactions to unbased fear and reactions to real events. As I've said repeatedly, Islam has a serious problem with violent radicals. That's not to say all or even most Muslims are radicals but enough are that they are a global threat. It's not unbase fear to react to all that. But many overstate the threat to include all muslims without providing evidence that all muslims are a threat.

Again, i think I've shown that all "Muslims" could rightly be considered a threat. Now, if a guy really isn't Muslim but just says so, I don't know how we should classify them.