Coyote Snares

[Hkindiana]

You realize that coyotes have attacked and killed a fair number of dogs and attacked more than a few humans right? Cats are a particular favorite snack of coyotes but I have trouble holding that against them.

I have read that up to 50% of the diet of some urban coyotes are cats and dogs, but not nearly so much in the country as there are lots of other options. As far as killing humans, there are only TWO TOTAL confirmed reports of coyotes attacking and killing a human in all of Canada OR the United States EVER (one was in Canada, and one was in the US - there is an on-line documentary about the Canadian killing, and it is a very good film). Compare that with the CDC report that shows 20-30 humans are attacked and killed EVERY YEAR in the US by dogs.

 

[phylodog]

What about fawns and other "non target" species?

What about them? Snares are indiscriminate by nature and anything which sticks its head in there is likely to stop breathing pretty quickly (depending on the type of snare). I don't claim to be an expert trapper but it seems likely that steps could be taken to reduce incidental kills by positioning the snares properly. There is no way to completely prevent incidental kills unfortunately, if there were I'd be far less experienced in cutting raccoons loose.

 

[Robert Richardson]

Nice sharp pair of side-cuts

 

[CountryBoy19]

What about fawns and other "non target" species?

There are ways to REDUCE the number of non-target captures but not eliminate them... First of all, if you're snaring fence crossings take them down in the spring. When momma deer jumps the fence, the fawns that can't yet jump go under and "bam" strangled fawn.

Dogs, not much can be done. The nature of dogs is too close to that of coyotes...

I just assumed all counties had some sort of leash law?

The rest of Indiana isn't like Monroe County... thus why many freedom loving rural dwellers hate Monroe County...

 

[patience0830]

The theory that you are responsible for the safety of your own pets apparently hadn't taken a firm hold in some people's minds.

It's your dog. Nobody loves him/ her like you do.

I especially don't love him when he and one of his buddies chase a 12 point up a trail under my deer stand, never to be seen again. Caveman and Phylo have the right of it. Keep your fur babies at home. Just because you own 2 acres in the country doesn't mean your dog has a right to trespass on the adjacent 500 acres just because you're too lazy, poor, or cheap to provide adequate containment facilities.

 

[Hkindiana]

Just because you own 2 acres in the country doesn't mean your dog has a right to trespass on the adjacent 500 acres just because you're too lazy, poor, or cheap to provide adequate containment facilities.

The owners of the Siberian Husky are not lazy, poor, or TOO cheap to provide adequate containment facilities. They had just purchased a brand new fence, and had no idea how it got out, short of someone letting it out. Even the police fail to provide "adequate containment facilities" for ALL of the prisoners, as some do escape. I just cannot get the sight of that beautiful Husky in the snare, or the cries of its owner as she held it, out of my head.

 

[Cpt Caveman]

The dog owners rights ended at his neighbors property line unfortunately. Sorry the dog got out but if the neighbor wants to snare coyotes its legal he should be allowed to.

 

[Cpt Caveman]

And before anyone goes down this road DOGS ARENT PEOPLE!!!

 

[possumpacker]

snares must have a relaxing lock in Ind. although its not real clear and need written permission to use them on property other than your own. sounds like the dogs were unharmed so no big deal. as for fawns being caught trapping season should be over by time fawns are born but could happen. but if one got caught its kinda like cutting a small tree for bait to catch beaver to save a hundred trees. dogs running at large are the problem not snares.

 

[Cpt Caveman]

Side cuts wont cut good snare cable.

 

[CountryBoy19]

snares must have a relaxing lock in Ind. although its not real clear and need written permission to use them on property other than your own. sounds like the dogs were unharmed so no big deal. as for fawns being caught trapping season should be over by time fawns are born but could happen. but if one got caught its kinda like cutting a small tree for bait to catch beaver to save a hundred trees. dogs running at large are the problem not snares.

The "relaxing lock" wording is ambiguous and relaxing locks are only required on larger loop sizes.

Trapping season may be over but coyotes can be snared year round with written landowner permission so many leave their snares year-round. Not a good idea IMHO.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

If you let your dogs roam off of your property, then you are telling your neighbors that you really don't care about their property. It's easy for people to understand why a guy would get mad about the neighbor's dog biting a person, or killing livestock, but what is the solution for dogs that trample your freshly planted garden beds, or topple your wood pile going after chipmunks, or dig holes under the barn going after rabbits, or knocking the wife's flowers all over the place? If you let your dog roam the country-side, how do you know it's not doing stuff like that?

Just because most of your neighbors are too nice to shoot them or snare them, it doesn't mean that they wouldn't like you much better if you kept your dogs at home.

 

[Htrailblazer]

We use foothold traps to catch coyote on our farm. I always try to keep them away from the goats. Biggest threat to my goats thus far has been dogs from people who own 2 acres and think they own the whole county. Now they have less dogs and I have 4 less goats.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Why the fear of the Coyotes?

Maybe she isn't afraid of Coyotes. Maybe it's just more safe for her to say the snares are for the Coyotes than to say she's tired of everyone's dogs having the run of her property.

 

[Hkindiana]

Maybe she isn't afraid of Coyotes. Maybe it's just more safe for her to say the snares are for the Coyotes than to say she's tired of everyone's dogs having the run of her property.

No, she is a dog lover. I just spoke with her today, and she says she is just sick that she caught the two dogs. She is removing the snares.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

No, she is a dog lover. I just spoke with her today, and she says she is just sick that she caught the two dogs. She is removing the snares.

I feel bad for her, she didn't intend any harm to the dogs, and it wasn't the dog's fault. Hope none of the neighbors hold a grudge on her.

 

[ru44mag]

I'd let them know that your neighbor has snares and if they don't want their animals to die in one of them, keep them home. If they don't want to do that you might ask them to send you pics or descriptions so you know who to call to come pick up their dead pets.

You realize that coyotes have attacked and killed a fair number of dogs and attacked more than a few humans right? Cats are a particular favorite snack of coyotes but I have trouble holding that against them.

Maybe she isn't afraid of Coyotes. Maybe it's just more safe for her to say the snares are for the Coyotes than to say she's tired of everyone's dogs having the run of her property.

I must say, I am really enjoying this thread. I hate when my neighbors let there dogs run. And the neighbors that know me, always tell me if they have a cat, and they describe it in detail. They ask me nicely to not shoot there cat.

 

[CampingJosh]

They ask me nicely to not shoot there cat.

Do your neighbors have to ask you not to commit other crimes, too?

35-46-3-12

 

[voidsherpa]

Do your neighbors have to ask you not to commit other crimes, too?

Some cats need shot, whats your point?

 

[IndyDave1776]

Some cats need shot, whats your point?

I would make the same argument about some neighbors!