Beretta 92S ordered used and received report

[indykid]

To add,

When you disassemble the pistol, check the recoil spring length against the barrel. Per Beretta, replace the recoil spring when it is barrel length or shorter. Longer than the barrel makes it ok.

Also, check the locking block. If it is the "generation 1" ( the ears are squared off where they meet the main body) I suggest replacing it with a Gen 3 (the intersection of the ear with the main block is rounded). Beretta USA lists replacement parts. Haven't checked in a while but I bought several lock block/spring/ guide rod sets for a very reasonable price for future use.

Also, if I remember correctly, the U serial number were military issue, an X serial number was Italian State Police, but it wouldn't surprise me to find Beretta selling one to the other without records kept for exportation purpose.

 

[Floivanus]

That thing is fine.

Id be more than happy with it, I may be a little dumb but I would be more than happy to pay that price for that pistol

 

[busted1200]

I’ve always wondered about the “handpick” charge. Bought many things from SOG back in the 90’s when good milsurp was prevalent. Sometimes I forked over the extra and sometimes I didn’t. Usually didn’t matter as I got nice stuff without extra charge and sometimes was disappointed with the extra charge. That’s the chance you take when buying blind. I seriously got a feeling someone just grabs first gun in the bin and really doesn’t compare them. I always like when I could get several friends to go in on group purchase, then I could hand pick my own.


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[snorko]

I recently ordered two surplus Berettas, an 84 and an 85. They were $349 & $399. Condition was excellent for both, just the faintest wear on the slide edges. Great deal from Classic Arms.

When I order lower priced surplus pistols, I try to buy two, keep the better, and sell the second.

 

[1775usmarine]

Bought a cz 50 from classic with handpicked that had pitting and you could tell they were getting to the bottom of the barrel with these. I got it soaking in clp right now since Dec. I ended up using 1000 grit all over the pitting and will have it cerakoted sometime this year.

 

[Brad69]

Issued pistols are are not the same as “civilian” models they are tools to be used.
They receive abuse that most cannot believe.

 

[thunderchicken]

If you are too worried about the scrapes and nicks in the finish just find someone to hit it with cerakote or durakote. Heck for what you paid for it, you should shoot the crap out of it and have some fun

Some other INGOer will probably own it in a few weeks anyway. Just kidding just kidding....or am I? Lol

 

[STEEL CORE]

I knew if I waited long enough (a few hours) the INDY KID would show up.....what an encyclopedia of well known, and hands on, firearms experience.

You want to know "Beretta 92's", he is your man.

 

[Tomc1947]

I picked up a 92s a couple of years ago. Had a few dings, but it also had a new barrel. Great shooter
About 6 most ago, I got a m85, a little speckling on the frame, but overall in real nice shape, it's never had a FTF of any kind.

 

[rvb]

second what indykid said about the locking block. update it IF you plan to shoot it a bunch. I had a police trade-in 92FS from circa '92 IIRC. The block broke in the first few thousand rounds. The replacement updated block lasted over 100k more before the barrel lugs sheared and the frame cracked. Good guns, that'll last you forever.

-rvb

 

[halfmileharry]

It's too bad the standard Beretta Pachmayr grips won't fit that or it would be covered up and you'd never see it.

Well fitted grip tape will cure a few ills.
For the money you paid if it shoots well you did fine.
I want to buy all kinds of very expensive guns as well but... "Poor boys.... Poor ways"

 

[gregkl]

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Issued pistols are are not the same as “civilian” models they are tools to be used.
They receive abuse that most cannot believe.

Yeah, as a civilian it is interesting what the appearance is on issued weapons. Iv'e seen several M-16/4 type rifles and they look rough. But I assume they run just fine.

I have a pistol that if I ever get into shooting sports I hope after awhile it will look a little like that issued pistol above. That would mean I'm actually using it.

 

[WebSnyper]

Well fitted grip tape will cure a few ills.
For the money you paid if it shoots well you did fine.
I want to buy all kinds of very expensive guns as well but... "Poor boys.... Poor ways"

True, some grip tape would do the job and be very functional.

 

[doddg]

If it's a shooter and the price was cheap, AllenM can Cerakote it and make it look better than new. Once you refinish it, you might not want to sell it in a week.

1. Cost? Approximately?

True. OP won't get his money out of it, but makes it a keeper. I've had Allen do some work and it is second to none.

2. Believe or not, if I sold it, in my mind it would sell for $300, and at the lowest $275. Could be wrong. I'll find out some day. No big loss.

On another note, I have a Taurus PT99 that was Black T finished about 25 years ago, and that thing looks better than a new Beretta (and that pistol is the only non striker fired gun I have because I won't sell or trade it as I'd never get my money out of it).

3. I haven't got to the point yet where I'm buying guns I won't get my money out of.
4.Theclosests would be the $225ish GSG 1911-22 with the $500 upgrades that I paid $350 for, but if I sold it, since the upgrades were done at ZR Tacitical, another person like me that wanted a "beefed-up" 1911-22 .22LR would probably pay it.

Looks fine to me for a gun that normally goes for $550 a pop....

5. Well, I wish I'd bought the $400 or the $420 with 6 mags for sale on Armslist.

I’ll take it!

6. I agree: for $200 it is well worth it!

I look at surplus guns often and always chicken out at the last minute. I’d rather pay a little more and see what I’m getting.

7. That is why I've never ordered a gun online before, but since this place is one that others have dealt with I took a chance: lesson learned.

Check it over good or have a 'smith go over it, shot it and if it shots well, the blemishes will just become part of its storied history. If it really is glitter, maybe it saw service in an Italian stripclub?

8. No, it's not really glitter, it just is so speckled from the finish missing that it looks LIKE glitter, but loved the humor!

The 92S police guns were well used, so unfortunately a lot of scratches and scuff marks are to be expected, including holster wear.

9. That is what is so strange. I've been around the block before buying very used guns when poor in college and through my 20s and I've never seen anything like this before on this scale. That's what blew my mind about paying for an upgrade to "excellent" and "handpicked." I don't believe it, someone simply went to the shelf and pulled one out that didn't care. imo

 

[doddg]

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[doddg]

To add,
When you disassemble the pistol, check the recoil spring length against the barrel. Per Beretta, replace the recoil spring when it is barrel length or shorter. Longer than the barrel makes it ok.
Also, check the locking block. If it is the "generation 1" ( the ears are squared off where they meet the main body) I suggest replacing it with a Gen 3 (the intersection of the ear with the main block is rounded). Beretta USA lists replacement parts. Haven't checked in a while but I bought several lock block/spring/ guide rod sets for a very reasonable price for future use.

1. Thanks so much for the input, if I was going to do those things, I would pay you to do the work if you were willing.

That thing is fine.
Id be more than happy with it, I may be a little dumb but I would be more than happy to pay that price for that pistol

2. Appreciate your attitude, but surely you don't mean what I have in it: $332?
3. Probably mean minus shipping ($20) and FFL fees ($25): $287.
4. Either way you are my new best friend, but you'll like my announcement I'm going to make ina separate thread about calling them, but I'm trying to respond to all these posts before supper.

I’ve always wondered about the “handpick” charge. Bought many things from SOG back in the 90’s when good milsurp was prevalent. Sometimes I forked over the extra and sometimes I didn’t. Usually didn’t matter as I got nice stuff without extra charge and sometimes was disappointed with the extra charge. That’s the chance you take when buying blind. I seriously got a feeling someone just grabs first gun in the bin and really doesn’t compare them. I always like when I could get several friends to go in on group purchase, then I could hand pick my own.

5. The voice of experience and you've had it both ways.

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I recently ordered two surplus Berettas, an 84 and an 85. They were $349 & $399. The condition was excellent for both, just the faintest wear on the slide edges. Great deal from Classic Arms.

6. Now that's what I'm talking about!


When I order lower priced surplus pistols, I try to buy two, keep the better, and sell the second.

7. Good Planning!

Bought a cz 50 from classic with handpicked that had pitting and you could tell they were getting to the bottom of the barrel with these. I got it soaking in clp right now since Dec. I ended up using 1000 grit all over the pitting and will have it cerakoted sometime this year.

8. It is all relative to price.

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Issued pistols are are not the same as “civilian” models they are tools to be used.
They receive abuse that most cannot believe.

9. I loved the comment that they had bought a service gun that looked like the dog had chewed on it.

If you are too worried about the scrapes and nicks in the finish just find someone to hit it with cerakote or durakote. Heck for what you paid for it, you should shoot the crap out of it and have some fun

10. That is my intention about the shooting, and depending on price, the cerakote/durkote.
11. If I wanted to have the gun for my visual pleasure, I'd want stainless or nickel, just b/c.

Some other INGOer will probably own it in a few weeks anyway. Just kidding just kidding....or am I? Lol

12. So funny!!! And, could be so much truth. If I found something I liked better, but I'm not really wanting/looking another 9mm. (unless someone puts me onto something like they did the Glock 26)
13. I've got my Shield 9mm and unless I sell it for something I like better for a carry (besides the Glock 26 I just bought).
14. It could be in time that I like the Glock as well as the Beretta and keep it for my "bigger" 9mm since it fits my hand like a bigger gun since I have the pinky extensions on the OEM mag and the extension on the OEM that makes it a 12 round mag (not really, only 11 rounds fit, but it has better purchase/coverage for my pinky than the other on).
15. Since I ordered the 12 round mags (one Glock and one Magpul) in addition, it will be interesting how it all settles down and seeing what I keep/sell.
16. I'm loving the concept of finally owning a Glock, but I love having a Beretta as well. (Beretta is a great name from my youth when I could afford them)

second what indykid said about the locking block. update it IF you plan to shoot it a bunch. I had a police trade-in 92FS from circa '92 IIRC. The block broke in the first few thousand rounds. The replacement updated block lasted over 100k more before the barrel lugs sheared and the frame cracked. Good guns, that'll last you forever.
-rvb

17. I cannot fathom putting 1000s of rounds through it: amazing to me. 100,000: totally unbelievable!

 

[doddg]

Well fitted grip tape will cure a few ills.
For the money you paid if it shoots well you did fine.
I want to buy all kinds of very expensive guns as well but... "Poor boys.... Poor ways"

1. You are speaking my language.
2. Grip tape?

True, some grip tape would do the job and be very functional.

1. It looks like my education is about to move forward (again).
2. I knowthereis tape and some rubbery "handles" people put over their rubber grips, but I didn't know they did that to wood or plastic grips.

 

[BigRed]

used service Beretta 92S

I picked one of these up a few years back.... It wasn't much to look at, but the function was absolutely fine. The S has some pretty small sights and the mag release takes a little adjustment, but runs fine.

I use it as a truck gun.

 

[mcapo]

https://talongungrips.com/grips/beretta/92-m-9.html

Grip tape also comes in sheets

 

[doddg]

Thanks for all the comments.
Whether it was: shut up and get real it is a used gun or
agreeing with me that it was not an upgrade worth the $40 extra I paid.

I called them when I got home to register my disappointment.
Some of you know me well enough that I didn't call to raise my voice or be unreasonable,
but to just let them know if anyone cared,
that I didn't think the product fit the description of "handpicked" and going from "good" to "excellent" grade.
I let them know that I didn't think that whoever picked this gun really did what was described b/c
I cannot fathom what the lower grade was like and that there didn't seem to be any "handpicking" being done either.
I offered to send them pics of the "disformity." (attempt at humor and, no, I didn't use that word, for those of you who don't get dry, out-of-the-box, eclectic and outlier humor when it is in print)

SOG said they have a 30-day money-back guarantee (which made me feel better),
but, of course, it did not reflect the $45 FFL fees and shipping or the additional $20 shipping I would have to do to send it back which would be taking a loss of $65 on the gun, which, since I think I could sell it for $275 on my own and take the same loss: no need to go that route.

They said they usually don't do it, but they would refund my money to the tune of selling the gun for the "non-upgrade" price = $239.
I don't know if that was sincere and they do that for everyone that is sobbing and crying as they as they are talking on the phone. (see note about dry humor )

So, instead of having $332 in the gun I have $292 in it, so I feel better,
especially after the comments made here that I didn't do as badly as I felt I did:
wasting my money for the $30 and $10 "upgrades."
I told them that the gun was fine in its imperfections if the front and back of the handle weren't so extreme.

So, for the guy who said you'd buy it from me, when I do sell in 1 week, 1 month, 2 months or whatever, remind me of that in a private email and you will get the "wholesale price" with the addition of the "grip tape" or the costs $100 for the cerakote, which, of course, you probably wouldn't want to pay for the cerakote finish anyway.
I'm sure in my wisdom and thriftiness, I'll use this tape to cover up the indiscretions.

I had the gun checked out already, I hope to go to the range with it tomorrow.
The slide seems just as tight and smooth as comments I've read about the Beretta 92.