Cortez MUST be an idiot.

[T.Lex]

At the risk of being alarmist (ok ok ok maybe that's my role here sometimes), I think it would be risky to underestimate her. She got 100k people to vote for her (in the general, only about 15k in the primary, I think).

She is walking into a situation where there will be MSM tripping over her to visit the Sunday morning opinion shows, baiting her into saying outrageous things. She will say outrageous things. The MSM will disseminate them. A whole bunch more people will think she is right. Or at least convincing.

Yes, many people will consider her stupid, delusional, and even incompetent. But people will watch.

And watch out.

If Obama paved the way for Trump, Trump may have paved the way for AOC.

 

[churchmouse]

At the risk of being alarmist (ok ok ok maybe that's my role here sometimes), I think it would be risky to underestimate her. She got 100k people to vote for her (in the general, only about 15k in the primary, I think).

She is walking into a situation where there will be MSM tripping over her to visit the Sunday morning opinion shows, baiting her into saying outrageous things. She will say outrageous things. The MSM will disseminate them. A whole bunch more people will think she is right. Or at least convincing.

Yes, many people will consider her stupid, delusional, and even incompetent. But people will watch.

And watch out.

If Obama paved the way for Trump, Trump may have paved the way for AOC.

This has crossed my mind. And it made me shudder.

 

[Leadeye]

As I remember there were some local issue with her primary opposition, so I don't see her as long term. I think it was old Tip who said all politics are local.

 

[Indyal]

Does anyone remember this movie?

 

[Cameramonkey]

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[actaeon277]

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[BugI02]

At the risk of being alarmist (ok ok ok maybe that's my role here sometimes), I think it would be risky to underestimate her. She got 100k people to vote for her (in the general, only about 15k in the primary, I think).

She is walking into a situation where there will be MSM tripping over her to visit the Sunday morning opinion shows, baiting her into saying outrageous things. She will say outrageous things. The MSM will disseminate them. A whole bunch more people will think she is right. Or at least convincing.

Yes, many people will consider her stupid, delusional, and even incompetent. But people will watch.

And watch out.

If Obama paved the way for Trump, Trump may have paved the way for AOC.

But wow, look at the crease in her pants(suit)! I think that line should be drawn directly from Obama to Ocasio-Cortez. If one Trojan Horse worked, why not another?

 

[BugI02]

I want to know how a "Democratic Socialist" (AKA a damn Communist) can even get an Economics degree with a minor in International Relations (yes I Wikipedia'ed this woman). Is there not abundant proof all forms of socialism and communism end very very badly?

Finally why do poor sociaists and their Uber rich puppet masters constantly want to take the middle classes money away?

The uberrich puppet masters want all that money to buy more votes from the have-nots and the have-littles. The peasants want your money taken because you have more than they do and they see a possibility of getting some of that

After the puppet masters amass control of all of the government, they don't care if the money runs out. They are able to use other levers of power to maintain control. The ballot box only becomes important as an international fig leaf

When their lethal reign of terror becomes untenable, the billions they and their cronies have siphoned away provide them a soft landing in some third party country and the rest of the world begins cleaning up the shattered mess they left behind

 

[BugI02]

That can't be. I read on INGO that a college diploma places you in a class above the average knuckle dragger.

And the more prestigious the college or school within the college, the more in awe we're supposed to be (unless we're talking about Orange Man Bad!)

 

[BugI02]

She will have to stay in the House at least 6 years. She is only 29. You have to be at least 35 to be President.

Negative, Senator Ocasio-Cortez next then President. Have all of her past records been legally sealed yet? That's how we'll know the fix is in

 

[Hawkeye]

Her most recent gaff was talking about the three chambers of government. The House, the Senate, and the Presidency. What a maroon !

That, and quotes about how it “won’t be hard to give away free stuff because it doesn’t cost anything, it’s free !” will make her quoteable for her entire 2 year term ( assuming she makes it two years). If she’s the next Obama she won’t have to languish in the House her full term !

I think she’s too young to be “the next Obama” in 2020. O-C is only 29. She’d have to be 35 to run for POTUS or VPOTUS. But that’s the patriarchy at work.


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[2A_Tom]

Her most recent gaff was talking about the three chambers of government. The House, the Senate, and the Presidency. What a maroon !

That, and quotes about how it “won’t be hard to give away free stuff because it doesn’t cost anything, it’s free !” will make her quoteable for her entire 2 year term ( assuming she makes it two years). If she’s the next Obama she won’t have to languish in the House her full term !

Do you have a reference for that "FREE" quote? I'll also look for it.

 

[Doug]

I think she’s too young to be “the next Obama” in 2020. O-C is only 29. She’d have to be 35 to run for POTUS or VPOTUS. But that’s the patriarchy at work.

Oh, come on. If she simply identifies as being old enough to be president, that would be good enough for most progressives and many Federal judges..

 

[Route 45]

I think she’s too young to be “the next Obama” in 2020. O-C is only 29. She’d have to be 35 to run for POTUS or VPOTUS. But that’s the patriarchy at work.


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Well, you are supposed to be a natural born US citizen as well, and look how that worked out in 2008.

 

[BugI02]

Didn't Obama identify as a [strike]Kenyan[/strike] [strike]foreign student[/strike] natural born US citizen, depending on what identity gave the maximum advantage? Wait, is that what they mean by identity politics?

 

[amboy49]

Do you have a reference for that "FREE" quote? I'll also look for it.

Just Google “Ocasio free stuff” and you’ll get a number of hits.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Do you have a reference for that "FREE" quote? I'll also look for it.

Closest I can find is when she was asked about how to pay for universal/singlepayer/whatever healthcare. She said something along the lines that that question confuses her, how do you pay for something cheaper, how do you pay for cheaper rent, you just pay for it.

 

[1DOWN4UP]

Closest I can find is when she was asked about how to pay for universal/singlepayer/whatever healthcare. She said something along the lines that that question confuses her, how do you pay for something cheaper, how do you pay for cheaper rent, you just pay for it.

She is back on the " make the wealthy pay their fair share"kick.Where have I heard that before?Soros did a good job with the rise from nothing win of this one.

 

[Dr.Midnight]

 

[BugI02]

From: https://taxfoundation.org/summary-federal-income-tax-data-2017/

The Internal Revenue Service has recently released new data on individual income taxes for tax year 2015, showing the number of taxpayers, adjusted gross income, and income tax shares by income percentiles.
The data demonstrate that the U.S. individual income tax continues to be very progressive, borne primarily by the highest income earners.


In 2015, 141.2 million taxpayers reported earning $10.14 trillion in adjusted gross income and paid $1.45 trillion in individual income taxes.

The number I usually see is $32 trillion over 10 years, just for 'Medicare for all (single payer)'. Assuming uniform distribution of cost (unlikely) for ease of computation, that is an extra $3.2 trillion per year

A cursory search gives me total Medicare and health spending in 2015 of just shy of $986 billion

Allowing for 'perfect world' $3.2 trillion - $986 billion savings from traditional Medicare = $2.214 trillion in needed new revenue

$2.214 trillion ÷ $1.45 trillion = 1.527 since this is all needed additional revenue, average taxes need to rise an additional 152.7%, or if you paid $10000 previously, that would rise to $25270 (your other taxes certainly wouldn't go down and the new revenue requirement is in addition to your previous tax burden)

All so what are arguably free-riders can have what they are unwilling to work for (since there are programs like medicaid in place for the truly poor, I will assume the rest desiring me to pay for their coverage are of some means - they just don't want to spend it on health insurance combined with the ACA making insurance quite a bit more expensive)

No way that could ever be a drag on the economy