Armed Communists/Antifa March in Georgia

[KG1]

Oh...
This Flag?

Just the good ol' boys...Never meanin' no harm....Runnin" around in a racist '69 Charger named General Lee with David Duke on the roof......

 

[Bennettjh]

Just the good ol' boys...Never meanin' no harm....Runnin" around in a racist '69 Charger named General Lee with David Duke on the roof......

Daisy Duke!!!

 

[Kutnupe14]

Oh...
This Flag?

You do know that Hazard County was a KKK stronghold right? A county in Georgia with ZERO black people. The only Black guy in the show was a Sheriff from the county over! Lol

 

[Mongo59]

So do we now build monuments to insure the eternal hate of Hazard Co or do we do something to change it's image?

If you have a platform like a popular TV show to turn the page and go forward, why would anyone but the most hateful, vengeful, unforgiving, hurtful people in the world want to drag them back into darkness?

 

[T.Lex]

So do we now build monuments to insure the eternal hate of Hazard Co or do we do something to change it's image?

If you have a platform like a popular TV show to turn the page and go forward, why would anyone but the most hateful, vengeful, unforgiving, hurtful people in the world want to drag them back into darkness?

Dukes of Hazard seems to be in an interesting cultural place IMHO. There were other shows in that time period that indeed sought to push culture forward. From memory (and they may not all align in time with DoH), White Shadow, Heat of the Night, and even the A Team, in a way. Then there's even the half hour sitcoms like Different Strokes and the ones with predominantly black casts. And a bunch of other shows would have plot lines that brought up racial tolerance.

While the Duke boys weren't overtly (or even really implied to be) biased, there just weren't any racial plot lines that I can recall. None. It just wasn't part of that universe.

At that time, maybe just showing a group of rural southern whites as race-neutral was a "win," but that sets a pretty low standard.

 

[Expat]

Dukes of Hazard seems to be in an interesting cultural place IMHO. There were other shows in that time period that indeed sought to push culture forward. From memory (and they may not all align in time with DoH), White Shadow, Heat of the Night, and even the A Team, in a way. Then there's even the half hour sitcoms like Different Strokes and the ones with predominantly black casts. And a bunch of other shows would have plot lines that brought up racial tolerance.

While the Duke boys weren't overtly (or even really implied to be) biased, there just weren't any racial plot lines that I can recall. None. It just wasn't part of that universe.

At that time, maybe just showing a group of rural southern whites as race-neutral was a "win," but that sets a pretty low standard.

Some of us actually prefer our television shows without the social justice preaching. Just like the current efforts going on in that area in seemingly every damn show.

 

[Mongo59]

Yes, but having had a historical blemish in the past is no reason to will them to never having the opportunity or ability to change. The portrayal of white youths NOT being obsessed with the subject, in itself, would be a move in the right direction, would it not?

 

[T.Lex]

Some of us actually prefer our television shows without the social justice preaching. Just like the current efforts going on in that area in seemingly every damn show.

Totally understand the value of escapism in TV. (There's too much f'n "reality" shows now, IMHO.) I think we agree about that.

Please don't take my earlier post as a critique. Like I said, I watched DoH and enjoyed it for what it is. (Of course, I was pre-teen/early teens, so the SJW stuff wasn't really part of my existence.)

My only point was that DoH wasn't about advancing any causes, which seemed like part of Mongo's post. I don't think its a good idea to hold up DoH as some sort of forward-pushing series on racial equality.

 

[Mongo59]

Some of us actually prefer our television shows without the social justice preaching. Just like the current efforts going on in that area in seemingly every damn show.

I feel you there. When the writers get tired they either run a social issue up the flag pole or have the characters start sleeping with each other...

 

[T.Lex]

Yes, but having had a historical blemish in the past is no reason to will them to never having the opportunity or ability to change. The portrayal of white youths NOT being obsessed with the subject, in itself, would be a move in the right direction, would it not?

Its not that they weren't obsessed with it, race was absolutely ignored - both as a fact and a social issue - in a setting in which it would have been a daily occurrence.

Again, this isn't a knock. It was fictional - in oh-so-many ways. I don't think it is accurate to say DoH either advanced or hindered the US race issue. It was a non-feature in that area.

(A different conversation would address whether they missed an opportunity.)

 

[Mongo59]

Its not that they weren't obsessed with it, race was absolutely ignored - both as a fact and a social issue - in a setting in which it would have been a daily occurrence.

Again, this isn't a knock. It was fictional - in oh-so-many ways. I don't think it is accurate to say DoH either advanced or hindered the US race issue. It was a non-feature in that area.

(A different conversation would address whether they missed an opportunity.)

Totally true.

 

[Mongo59]

Probably my least favorite character portrayal was that of the sheriff, and that actor (James Best) was from Corydon, Indiana...

 

[Expat]

Its not that they weren't obsessed with it, race was absolutely ignored - both as a fact and a social issue - in a setting in which it would have been a daily occurrence.

I was born in a county in E. Kentucky that had no black people in it as far as I can remember. Race was a non-issue. If the Duke's county was similar, how would it have been a daily occurrence?

 

[T.Lex]

I was born in a county in E. Kentucky that had no black people in it as far as I can remember. Race was a non-issue. If the Duke's county was similar, how would it have been a daily occurrence?

So, when did you first hear descriptions of black people?

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

So, when did you first hear descriptions of black people?

The first black people that I felt like I got acquainted with was when "Good Times" came on TV.

Growing up, we talked about a lot of things, and I'm sure the subject of black people came up from time to time, but I'm sure we went months in between.

 

[T.Lex]

The first black people that I felt like I got acquainted with was when "Good Times" came on TV.

Oof.

So what was the first description of black people that you recall?

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Oof.

So what was the first description of black people that you recall?

I wouldn't remember that. I don't think of it as good or bad (why would I?) that I grew up in a rural area where there were no black people, or that I went to schools that had not one single black child.

 

[T.Lex]

I wouldn't remember that. I don't think of it as good or bad (why would I?) that I grew up in a rural area where there were no black people, or that I went to schools that had not one single black child.

Right, but at some point, do you remember people talking about black people? Like, you said you saw "Good Times." Do you remember the grownups around ever talking about black people?

Naturally, at the time, it wouldn't have struck you as good or bad. Kids don't really think like that.

 

[Expat]

So, when did you first hear descriptions of black people?

I was still a kid when we moved to rural Howard County. The first time I really remember anything about black people was the unrest up in Kokomo in the late 60's.

 

[T.Lex]

I was still a kid when we moved to rural Howard County. The first time I really remember anything about black people was the unrest up in Kokomo in the late 60's.

I have family who were in Kokomo at that time.

Do you remember anything, maybe not specifically but even just generally, about how black people were described by the older folks?