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    mom45

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    3 S's is a great solution sometimes...not my favorite, but use it as needed.

    We have a neighbor who had a dog and had the buried fence. If I saw his dog on the trail cameras, I would send him a message with the photo and let him know what the dog was up to while he was at work. He would change the batteries in the collar and problem solved. When he was home, the dog would stay by him so he never knew when those batteries were dead apparently. He was a friendly dog so I sure didn't want to shoot it for doing what dogs do, especially since this guy did have the buried fence and took care of the dog. Unfortunately, another neighbor shot the dog over the fence in its own yard because it was barking. I still can't believe that guy didn't get in any sort of trouble.

    Just sharing that thought because I honestly believe people who haven't taken some sort of precautions such as the buried fencing to keep their dogs home, really must not care much about what happens to them. If I see a dog once, I assume it got loose and try not to do anything other than chase it away. If it is here all the time....it is game on.
     

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    3 S's is a great solution sometimes...not my favorite, but use it as needed.

    We have a neighbor who had a dog and had the buried fence. If I saw his dog on the trail cameras, I would send him a message with the photo and let him know what the dog was up to while he was at work. He would change the batteries in the collar and problem solved. When he was home, the dog would stay by him so he never knew when those batteries were dead apparently. He was a friendly dog so I sure didn't want to shoot it for doing what dogs do, especially since this guy did have the buried fence and took care of the dog. Unfortunately, another neighbor shot the dog over the fence in its own yard because it was barking. I still can't believe that guy didn't get in any sort of trouble.

    Just sharing that thought because I honestly believe people who haven't taken some sort of precautions such as the buried fencing to keep their dogs home, really must not care much about what happens to them. If I see a dog once, I assume it got loose and try not to do anything other than chase it away. If it is here all the time....it is game on.

    Shoot into my property no matter what you are aiming at and your ass will belong to Joe Hays. Look it up.
     

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    Showing my young age here but I've never heard of the three Ss or Joe Hays...

    I'm gonna guess the Ss are something like shout, swat, shoot?

    When I was a kid (so so long ago) my uncles used this term. When someone got their hair up the standard "You ass belongs to Joe Hays" was the thing that let anyone around them know to step off. With those 2 it was wise to step off.
     

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    ..When someone got their hair up the standard "You ass belongs to Joe Hays" was the thing that let anyone around them know to step off...

    Must be regional. I'm no spring chicken and grew up around relatives who were born in the late 1800s. And I've NEVER heard of Joe Hays.:dunno:



    Was Joe...

    You know...

    Gay?:gheyhi:
     

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    Joe Hayes was a black belt Tae Kwon Do karate champion in the 70's . He could mop the floor with Bruce Lee ...with ease !
     

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    i have this sign...

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    Here's the issue I ran into back when we had a hobby farm. We lost chickens and goats regularly due to neighbor dogs. I tried repeatedly to convince them to keep their dogs confined. A few flat out told me that that's why they moved to the country so that their dogs could run free. Fencing will not keep determined dogs out of a farm lot. I watched them as their owners pulled out of their driveways to go to work. They would wander out into the field that bordered our land until the last dog came out. They then came down to our place as a pack. A normally good dog in a pack will do things they normally won't do. One day I went out to the barn to get some eggs and as I stepped around the garage I heard a ruckus in the barn lot. That pack was in my barn lot killing chickens and goats. I grabbed my shotgun and four dogs didn't make it home that night. We called the animal control a few times but they said they were understaffed and we had the right to protect our livestock. One time the wife called them because I wasn't around. I pulled up just as the officer got out of his van. Two dogs were again in our barn lot charging the fence and they had already killed one goat. The officer told me I was going to have to deal with one of the dogs because he only had one dart left! I wanted to ask him if his name was Barney Fife! He did dart one of the dogs and I went in after the other one with a pick handle. But, now that the other dog was out of action the remaining dog turned into a whimpering pile of jello. At that point, I couldn't do anything but lead it back to the officer. It turned out that both dogs were from a new family five miles away that thought it was okay to let their pets run loose. I can't stand some folks attitudes. What if I had a 300-pound rooster and it was going into their yard and killing their dogs? I seriously doubt they would feel that family animals should be allowed to roam free at that point.:soapbox:
     

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    churchmouse

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    Here's the issue I ran into back when we had a hobby farm. We lost chickens and goats regularly due to neighbor dogs. I tried repeatedly to convince them to keep their dogs confined. A few flat out told me that that's why they moved to the country so that their dogs could run free. Fencing will not keep determined dogs out of a farm lot. I watched them as their owners pulled out of their driveways to go to work. They would wander out into the field that bordered our land until the last dog came out. They then came down to our place as a pack. A normally good dog in a pack will do things they normally won't do. One day I went out to the barn to get some eggs and as I stepped around the garage I heard a ruckus in the barn lot. That pack was in my barn lot killing chickens and goats. I grabbed my shotgun and four dogs didn't make it home that night. We called the animal control a few times but they said they were understaffed and we had the right to protect our livestock. One time the wife called them because I wasn't around. I pulled up just as the officer got out of his van. Two dogs were again in our barn lot charging the fence and they had already killed one goat. The officer told me I was going to have to deal with one of the dogs because he only had one dart left! I wanted to ask him if his name was Barney Fife! He did dart one of the dogs and I went in after the other one with a pick handle. But, now that the other dog was out of action the remaining dog turned into a whimpering pile of jello. At that point, I couldn't do anything but lead it back to the officer. It turned out that both dogs were from a new family five miles away that thought it was okay to let their pets run loose. I can't stand some folks attitudes. What if I had a 300-pound rooster and it was going into their yard and killing their dogs? I seriously doubt they would feel that family animals should be allowed to roam free at that point.:soapbox:

    It has already been established in this thread that many will do you harm no matter what the dogs are doing. That is so off the rails.
    Unless you actually see the behavior you describe no one believes the family fido capable of actually being a dog. Doing what dogs can and will inherently do.

    Back on the farm my people did the three S thing and really did not care. Dog should not have been in the chickens.
     

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    That makes more sense. I was picturing a bunch of old men wearing sandals and black socks combing through your woods with metal detectors. :):

    I resemble that remark!

    After literally tripping over a long forgotten hard rock drilled well head in the weeds, and nearly falling into a cistern fixing a tire on the tractor, I started metal detecting.
    Interesting things people loose or bury, but mostly junk...

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    As for random people, no shortage of those.
    In Indiana, people CAN track a wounded animal onto your land, even if it's posted.
    The law says you have to make every reasonable effort to recover a wounded animal.

    They CAN NOT shoot that animal on your land from across a marked fence or property line.

    That's the only exemption I know about.

    Purple top fence posts in Indiana are NOT regularly recognized, but if you add the normal 'No Trespassing' signs you are covered anyway.
    I go one step further, with stencils I have the entire list on 4'x4' signs on every standard approach, including the river frontage.

    PRIVATE PROPERTY,
    CLOSED TO HIKERS/HUNTERS/SPORTSMAN,
    No Trespassing, No Hunting, No Fishing, No Mushroom/Ginseng/Nut Collection, No Wood Cutting, No Dumping.
    Leaving vehicles/property constitutes acknowedgemen of abandonment.

    That last line gets me deer stands nearly every year.
    Vehicles with a state title are REALLY hard to get rights to, but about everything else is fair game.

    I'm not a jerk, someone stops on the boat dock I'm as likely as not to offer them cold drinks and restroom, if someone breaks down on the right of way (outside the fence) I'm likely as not going to help them.
    If the neighbors ask FIRST, I'm likely as not going to give the usual warning about shooting towards the buildings/solar panels and let them hunt.

    I find you prowling around when you aren't supposed to be I will call Police (county sheriff deputy lives 5 minutes away and his family uses the lake) and read you the sign you ignored on the way in, have police give a formal no trespassing order since you can't read or didn't care.
     
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