AR Pistol or not??

[Gaffer]

I will ask my wife what she uses to clean all of mine.



Ok, all kidding aside..

Getting stuff ready for my first pistol build. I am really looking forward to it! btw.. this is the thread that pushed me over the ledge!

ron

 

[nipprdog]

Thanks guys. I may have to do some measuring.

I'd rather go one piece if I can.

This one may just fit my need, (12 inch model) though I'd rather not pay this much for it:
https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/1903148105/tipton-deluxe-1-piece-cleaning-rod-carbon-fiber

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009EJ74SO/ref=twister_B07HMVBTG9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

A 12" rod will not work with a 8" pistol.

 

[WebSnyper]

A 12" rod will not work with a 8" pistol.

Yep, seeing that. Even with it being an fx 9 and not having standard AR dimensions it won't work. Need like a 16" rod which no one makes in one piece. Will either have to go 26" or multi piece.

 

[MCgrease08]

May I ask why you are set on a one piece rod?

 

[Sniper 79]

Cleaning?

Yes what is this "cleaning" you speak of.

 

[WebSnyper]

May I ask why you are set on a one piece rod?

Prefer one piece for most applications, as there are no sections to bind, and at least in the caveman days it was generally believed that one piece rods would have less edges, to potentially damage a barrel or crown. That may be an old myth, but a single piece can certainly not have more than multi piece.

 

[BillD]

J. Dewey manufacturing cleaning rods on Amazon.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Yes what is this "cleaning" you speak of.

Its that thing you do when it gums up so bad it doesnt go bang reliably.

 

[WebSnyper]

J. Dewey manufacturing cleaning rods on Amazon.

Yep, familiar with Dewey, and have had them before. Good stuff, just trying to find one that is somewhere in the 16" - maybe 22" range (which I understand why we don't see many one piece rods in this length, as for most rifles, it would be too short).

This one may work: https://deweyrods.com/product/30-caliber-nylon-coated-rod-17-inches/

 

[BillD]

Yep, familiar with Dewey, and have had them before. Good stuff, just trying to find one that is somewhere in the 16" - maybe 22" range (which I understand why we don't see many one piece rods in this length, as for most rifles, it would be too short).

This one may work: https://deweyrods.com/product/30-caliber-nylon-coated-rod-17-inches/

I've got one that's 24"

 

[Sigblitz]

I've got one that's 24"

 

[Sigblitz]

Upon further review, I did not give this the attention it deserves. So much to work with.

Yep, familiar with Dewey, and have had them before. Good stuff, just trying to find one that is somewhere in the 16" - maybe 22" range (which I understand why we don't see many one piece rods in this length, as for most rifles, it would be too short).

This one may work: https://deweyrods.com/product/30-caliber-nylon-coated-rod-17-inches/

I've got one that's 24"

 

[WebSnyper]

Upon further review, I did not give this the attention it deserves. So much to work with.

Well, there is 24" to work with... not my fault you didn't notice it before.

 

[Ggreen]

Its that thing you do when it gums up so bad it doesnt go bang reliably.

My main ar leaves a layer of grime on anyone that touches it and it still works lol. Sometimes I drip some clp on the part that goes forward after a long day with the suppressor. Cleaning, for the most part, is jusy vanity on non blued guns.

 

[WebSnyper]

My main ar leaves a layer of grime on anyone that touches it and it still works lol. Sometimes I drip some clp on the part that goes forward after a long day with the suppressor. Cleaning, for the most part, is jusy vanity on non blued guns.

Eh, I clean guns. To me its like changing the oil in vehicles. It's something I do. It removes that as a possible issue in the equation.

 

[Ggreen]

Eh, I clean guns. To me its like changing the oil in vehicles. It's something I do. It removes that as a possible issue in the equation.

*induces possible problems...

Counterintuitive, but it's what I've been told by the builders of my two highest priced guns. Over cleaning is an issue, and a root cause of many wear and accuracy issues... My precision rifle builder told me to shoot it until its groups open up.

 

[WebSnyper]

*induces possible problems...

Counterintuitive, but it's what I've been told by the builders of my two highest priced guns. Over cleaning is an issue, and a root cause of many wear and accuracy issues... My precision rifle builder told me to shoot it until its groups open up.

I get that over zealous cleaning can cause issues. I'm wiping it down, getting the black stuff out of some of the nooks and crannies, and giving the barrel a wet patch, a wet brush (usually a non metallic brush) a couple of passes, another wet patch, and then dry patches until it shows up fairly clean.

I'm not scrubbing it until I can eat off of it.

 

[Restroyer]

*induces possible problems...

Counterintuitive, but it's what I've been told by the builders of my two highest priced guns. Over cleaning is an issue, and a root cause of many wear and accuracy issues... My precision rifle builder told me to shoot it until its groups open up.

In the Army we cleaned our weapons every time we fired them. Never heard of "over cleaning".
I often see people on here who claim they never clean their guns and then I see them selling guns on the Classifieds and I'm like nope.

 

[Ggreen]

In the Army we cleaned our weapons every time we fired them. Never heard of "over cleaning".
I often see people on here who claim they never clean their guns and then I see them selling guns on the Classifieds and I'm like nope.

That's where the problem came from. Gunsmiths and engineers trying to figure out why training guns where failing while test guns that never get cleaned ram for thousands of rounds. You don't tear an engine down to change the oil, drain and replace.

 

[Restroyer]

That's where the problem came from. Gunsmiths and engineers trying to figure out why training guns where failing while test guns that never get cleaned ram for thousands of rounds. You don't tear an engine down to change the oil, drain and replace.

Never recall any of our unit's guns failing. Sand will cause jams especially in the M-16 era when I served. Guns and engines not the same thing.