Mueller press conference

[KG1]

I don't hate the president. I think he is unfit for the office, and plays to the baser instinct of people in order to garner support. To answer your question, no, I don't endorse any of the things you questioned me about.

Fair enough. Perhaps I should’ve posed those questions using a few less specific nouns that seemed to be a bit personal in nature rather than simply asking if the things you posted were something that you would be supportive of without making it personal.

If I may be quite honest though those questions were posed within a certain context related to your very vocal distaste for Trump and a majority of his supporters (sycophants) as it were.

 

[Libertarian01]

I am very disappointed in Mueller's statements.

He said absolutely NOTHING of substance. The only thing he basically said was that Trump was mischaracterizing his report, but even then he didn't directly say that.

He said he couldn't prove a negative (ie. that Trump didn't obstruct justice.) Well..., NO SUNSHINE! Do you know how hard it is to prove a negative!?!?!? Especially in a situation like this. Say for example I am accused of murdering someone. How do I prove I didn't do it? The only real way for me to do so is to have an ironclad alibi as to the exact time and place of my location versus the murder victims. Now, change it to me being accused of conspiring to murder someone! How in the hell can I prove that I didn't? I cannot. It is impossible. There is no way for me to go through my entire recent life history and prove that I did not contact anyone involved in the murder.

Now turn this to Trump, a man I have almost zero (0) respect for, yet he is still entitled to the presumption of innocence. There is no way for Mueller to prove he didn't obstruct justice, especially where intent is involved in the actual crime. So Mueller comes out with a ridiculous press release that does nothing more than muddy the water and make insinuations without actually stating anything, not that anything regarding obstruction could be stated in any case anyways. Ok...?

To be fair to Mr. Mueller and to presume the greatest amount of good faith on his part, I believe he is simply PO'd about what he believes is a gross misrepresentation of his report. I get that. Where he fails, miserably, is by trying to walk (IMO) a very fine legal line on properly clarifying his report without actually making a direct statement. While I get it that he doesn't like his report being interpreted in a way that is against his wishes he doesn't appreciate how divided the country is today. This is throwing gasoline on the fire.

I do NOT like President Trump! I think he is a complete idiot on many issues. That said, he is being attacked in such a massive partisan fashion that it is entirely lopsided and unjust.

I still believe a lot of the problem goes back to the business model of the media today. Conflict is sexy and draws eyes, which draws advertisers, which makes the media company money. Ergo, attacking President Trump or anyone for that matter needs to be done with vitriol and emotional energy otherwise the eyes just won't focus on it and the advertising revenue goes away. So the media will continue to hype and the liberals will rejoice - until it's their turn on the hot seat. Only then will they see the bias.

Regards,

Doug

 

[KG1]

I think AG Barr saw thru whatever game Mueller was running by making insinuations then leaving the obstruction part open ended for others to do as they wish with and he (Barr) said we’ll have none of that nonsense.

We’ll just go ahead and tie up this loose end and make the entire investigation official.

So he along with Deputy AG Rosenstien (who was the one that picked Mueller and over saw the entire investigation from the beginning lest we forget).concluded that Mueller's evidence of obstruction was "not sufficient to establish that the President had committed an obstruction-of-justice offense".

It was important and proper for AG Barr to include Rosenstein's input to lend credibility on making the conclusion instead of making the decision unilaterally simply because the investigation was conducted from beginning to end under Rosenstein's oversight.

 

[flightsimmer]

In case you missed this. It only takes about 10 minutes to read it.
And yes, it's a repost but I felt it was important for everyone to read.

= = = = = = = = SwampGate = = = = = = = =

This is the best one ever, ever, ever- – – – – -THE TIME SEQUENCE OF SWAMPGATE – – – – – ONE NEEDS A COPY TO REMEMBER IT ALL! (AND SAVE IT IN A SAFE PLACE FOR POSTERITY!)

Let’s follow the trail ….. Everyone needs to read this ….. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important!

Here’s what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together.

It smells like conspiracy and treason.

From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

A Grand Jury had been impaneled.

Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity.”

Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were ever declared.

Hmmm, now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.

Guess who took over this investigation in 2002?

None other than James Comey.

Guess who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS?

Your friend and mine, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner.

It gets better, well not really, but this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?

Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?

None other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States Rod Rosenstein.

Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?

I know, it’s a miracle, just a coincidence, just an anomaly in statistics and chances, but it was Robert Mueller.

What do all four casting characters have in common?

They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

Now that’s just a coincidence, right?

Ok, lets chalk the last one up to mere chance.

Let’s fast forward to 2009…..

James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.

Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, on her own personal email server, by the way.

The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of Hillary.

Like all good public servants do. You know — looking out for America’s best interests. She decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of all of the US’s Uranium to no other than — the Russians.

Now, you might think that this was a fairly straight-up deal, except that it wasn’t: The American People got absolutely nothing out of it.

And they’re investigating president Trump for “collusion?”

However, prior to the sales approval, none other than Bill Clinton traveled to Moscow, got paid $500K for a one-hour speech, and then met with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.

Ok, no big deal right?

Well, not so fast: the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.

Guess who was the FBI Director during this time?

Yep, Robert Mueller, who even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.

Guess who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?

None other than, Rod Rosenstein.

Guess what happened to the informant?

The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.

How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole, providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?

Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?

About 145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.

Now guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, Lois Lerner.

Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences. Nothing to see here, right?

Let’s fast forward to 2015.

Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi, and after the 9 “investigations”, the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that The Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.

He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law

He also discovered that there was “Top Secret” information contained within her personally archived email. (Let’s not forget – at least 10 CIA spies in China were killed by the Chinese because of the leaks, and God knows what else occurred.)

Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary.

Now this is amazing: guess who became FBI Director in 2013?

Hint: he secured 17 no-bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed Lockheed.

None other than James Comey.

Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?

So he’s the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after, of course, his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her.

Nope…we couldn’t find any crimes there.

So what happened next?

In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton — something he had no authority to do. Meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.

They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury.

Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” that Comey is, he steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 5th of 2016, and exonerates The Hillary from any wrongdoing.

Can you see the pattern?

It goes on and on. Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General; Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein; Comey leaks government information to the press; Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ.

And the story continues.

FISA Abuse, political espionage…. pick a crime, any crime, chances are…… this group and a few others did bringing new meaning to the term “organized crime.”

All the same players.

All compromised and conflicted.

All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves

All connected in one way or another to the Clintons.

They are like battery acid, they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.

How many lives have the Clinton’s destroyed? How many have been Arkancided?!

As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.

Let us not forget that Comey’s brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation’s taxes.

And the person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above while doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies? Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton!

Who is Lisa Barsoomian?

Let’s look a little into Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.

Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney who graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.

Barsoomian, with her boss, R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.

Lawrence also represented:

Robert Mueller three times;

James Comey five times;

Barack Obama 45 times;

Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;

Bill Clinton 40 times; and

Hillary Clinton 17 times.

Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.

You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?

Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets.

Someone out there cares so much that the Internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community.

And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.

This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

It’s a cover, so big deal, right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US Intelligence Community really matter?

It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. And last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.

Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?

BECAUSE … She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE!

That’s why!

Get this information out to everyone you can!

It is jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this info has never been exposed!

Do your part in plastering this information everywhere … it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by leftists … and will convince many not paying attention that we have a soft coup happening now.

 

[chipbennett]

I'm not making a judgement whether or not Trump did ****ty things in that quote. That's pretty subjective anyway. Some people think everything he does is wrong. Some think he's done nothing wrong ever. But, if I were to make a judgement, there are some things in the report that make Trump look bad. Ethically edgy things, but not what I would consider illegal things. If there were drawn out impeachment proceedings, that would give the Democrats the opportunity to make the bad sound impeachable. So like I said, the hearings would view like a months long campaign add for Democrats.

Here's the problem, though: "ethically edgy" things are none of the business of Congress. The standard is "high crimes and misdemeanors" for a reason. Kennedy whoring up the White House wasn't impeachable. Clinton getting it on with an intern in the Oval Office wasn't impeachable. (Lying under oath, however, was and is impeachable.) The things that allegedly make Trump look bad are either a) things he had the constitutionally enumerated authority to do as chief of the executive branch, or b) matters of personality (the way he speaks, using coarse language, etc.) - and are also not impeachable.

Now, does it surprise me that House Democrats are making a mockery of separation of powers and Congressional oversight duties? No. They campaigned on doing precisely that. They are shooting themselves in the foot in the process, IMHO; but they are doing exactly what they said they would do.

 

[chipbennett]

...Now turn this to Trump, a man I have almost zero (0) respect for, yet he is still entitled to the presumption of innocence. There is no way for Mueller to prove he didn't obstruct justice, especially where intent is involved in the actual crime. So Mueller comes out with a ridiculous press release that does nothing more than muddy the water and make insinuations without actually stating anything, not that anything regarding obstruction could be stated in any case anyways. Ok...?

...I do NOT like President Trump! I think he is a complete idiot on many issues. That said, he is being attacked in such a massive partisan fashion that it is entirely lopsided and unjust.

And this is case in point regarding the Democrats shooting themselves in the foot with the mockery they are making of separation of powers and Congressional oversight.

But they just can't help themselves.

 

[KG1]

Here's the problem, though: "ethically edgy" things are none of the business of Congress. The standard is "high crimes and misdemeanors" for a reason. Kennedy whoring up the White House wasn't impeachable. Clinton getting it on with an intern in the Oval Office wasn't impeachable. (Lying under oath, however, was and is impeachable.) The things that allegedly make Trump look bad are either a) things he had the constitutionally enumerated authority to do as chief of the executive branch, or b) matters of personality (the way he speaks, using coarse language, etc.) - and are also not impeachable.

Now, does it surprise me that House Democrats are making a mockery of separation of powers and Congressional oversight duties? No. They campaigned on doing precisely that. They are shooting themselves in the foot in the process, IMHO; but they are doing exactly what they said they would do.

Where Clinton went wrong he agreed to testify under oath and got caught in the trap.

Trump can be thankful that his lawyers kept him from the same fate.

Mueller and his team we’re trying their damndest to hang Trump with a perjury rap.

 

[flightsimmer]

Quote: Mueller and his team we’re trying their damndest to hang Trump with a perjury trap. Unquote:

This was one of the two reasons to keep the so called, investigation going.
They had nothing but they had to get something.

The other reason if they couldn't do that was to keep it going until the election in hopes of discrediting him.

Barr stepped in and said, what have you got? Muller said, well, nothing yet, and Barr told him to wrap it up, now.

 

[Libertarian01]

In case you missed this. It only takes about 10 minutes to read it.
And yes, it's a repost but I felt it was important for everyone to read.



Who is Lisa Barsoomian?

Let’s look a little into Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.

Lisa H. Barsoomian, a US Attorney who graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protege of James Comey and Robert Mueller.

Barsoomian, with her boss, R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.

Lawrence also represented:

Robert Mueller three times;

James Comey five times;

Barack Obama 45 times;

Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;

Bill Clinton 40 times; and

Hillary Clinton 17 times.

Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.

You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?

Apparently someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets.

Someone out there cares so much that the Internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community.

And, although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health.

This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

It’s a cover, so big deal, right? I mean what does one more attorney with ties to the US Intelligence Community really matter?

It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. And last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and the Russians.

Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?

BECAUSE … She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE!

That’s why!

Get this information out to everyone you can!

It is jaw dropping, shocking and extremely sad that this info has never been exposed!

Do your part in plastering this information everywhere … it’s bullet proof and cannot be blown off by leftists … and will convince many not paying attention that we have a soft coup happening now.

Haven't done this in awhile, but...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lisa-barsoomian-rod-rosenstein/

When the conspiracy rant goes this far off the deep end check all sources to make certain they are legit. This rant is way too far gone.

Regards,

Doug

 

[flightsimmer]

No reason to trust Snoops anymore either.

 

[jamil]

No reason to trust Snoops anymore either.

Looks to me both are questionable sources. Maybe trust neither. Without being able to independently verify the story, regardless how delicious it tastes to your worldview palette, you can’t really believe it. If we want to reserve believe for what’s true, we really can’t afford to apply a cheaper factchecking to some favorable story than to an unfavorable one.

 

[flightsimmer]

Well, it lines up with what Hannity and Dan Bongino have been saying. I trust Hannity more.

 

[jamil]

Why not trust flightsimmer? He could probably do some factchecking of his own rather than just taking the word of biased partisans.

 

[flightsimmer]

Well sure, I know I'm trustworty. LOL.

 

[Doug]

Mueller:
"I searched for over two years and threatened everyone involved with Trump and couldn't find any proof he did anything wrong, but, d***it, my job was to find dirt on Trump. So, I'll say we didn't find conclusive proof he didn't commit a crime. "
I don't recall him saying he looked for proof Trump didn't commit a crime.
He also did not prove George Washington did not really cut down a cherry tree.

 

[rob63]

Most of that rant likely goes off the rails... however, one thing I was able to verify, and it may just be a coincidence, but it sure sounds like Comey has made the most of his contacts in Washington.

From Opensecrets.org https://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=70344

"In 2005, Comey left law enforcement for the defense industry, joining money-in-politics powerhouse Lockheed Martin. As senior vice president and general counsel he earned more than $6 million in compensation in his last full year with the company."

Three years after Comey joined Lockheed Martin, and 2 years before he gets the $6 million, in 2008:

"Lockheed wins $1 billion FBI biometric contract"

"FBI awards Lockheed Martin a 10-year contract to design, develop, test, and deploy a next-generation biometrics-based identification system"

https://www.infoworld.com/article/2642386/lockheed-wins--1-billion-fbi-biometric-contract.html


The FBI director at the time the contract was awarded? Robert Mueller.

 

[KG1]

Most of that rant likely goes off the rails... however, one thing I was able to verify, and it may just be a coincidence, but it sure sounds like Comey has made the most of his contacts in Washington.

From Opensecrets.org https://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=70344

"In 2005, Comey left law enforcement for the defense industry, joining money-in-politics powerhouse Lockheed Martin. As senior vice president and general counsel he earned more than $6 million in compensation in his last full year with the company."

Three years after Comey joined Lockheed Martin, and 2 years before he gets the $6 million, in 2008:

"Lockheed wins $1 billion FBI biometric contract"

"FBI awards Lockheed Martin a 10-year contract to design, develop, test, and deploy a next-generation biometrics-based identification system"

https://www.infoworld.com/article/2642386/lockheed-wins--1-billion-fbi-biometric-contract.html


The FBI director at the time the contract was awarded? Robert Mueller.

I remember hearing about this somewhere before. Not sure where.

 

[Libertarian01]

A good article that gives some background information on the report and the DOJ's legal issues with the Mueller Report.

https://thehill.com/opinion/judicia...y-publicly-to-answer-three-critical-questions

Regards,

Doug

 

[BugI02]

IMO a much more cogent explaination

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/robert-mueller-investigation-was-always-impeachment-probe/
The Mueller Investigation Was Always an Impeachment Probe

 

[KG1]

IMO a much more cogent explaination

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/robert-mueller-investigation-was-always-impeachment-probe/
The Mueller Investigation Was Always an Impeachment Probe

Exactly. The Democrats showed their hand when a number of them were voicing support for impeachment before the report even came out.

The report was just a formality.

Mueller prepped the runway, provided an obstruction flight plan and gassed up the plane for the Democrats to take off with impeachment proceedings.