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    Bosshoss

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    I will lay odds that it is almost as good as a set of sites. It is faster if you have any time behind it. I have witnesses to this very fact. Sights are great. No knock but in self defense distances they are a hindrance. JMHO and let the flames begin.

    Not going to flame you but my experiences are vastly different. I have seen hundreds of good shooters miss a target at 10 feet by point shooting and not indexing their sights.
    I'm actually a decent point shooter but would never try to break a shot in competition or in a self defense situation without seeing my sights on target.
    Sure you can sight down the side of the slide and/or the top of the slide but why would you? if you have time to sight down the top or side of a slide it doesn't take any longer to actually use the sights.
    If not using sights is faster than using them(and still hitting your target) then no competition shooter or self defense instructor would even have sights on their gun.

    You or I getting lucky on the range point shooting or not using the sights and hitting some targets is totally different than doing it in competition or in a for real self defense situation.

    You are correct it is a function of muscle memory and that holds true for using the sights as well.

    The more you shoot the more you get to know what the "acceptable" sight picture is and what you can get away.

    Great topic for discussion:yesway:
     

    churchmouse

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    Not going to flame you but my experiences are vastly different. I have seen hundreds of good shooters miss a target at 10 feet by point shooting and not indexing their sights.
    I'm actually a decent point shooter but would never try to break a shot in competition or in a self defense situation without seeing my sights on target.
    Sure you can sight down the side of the slide and/or the top of the slide but why would you? if you have time to sight down the top or side of a slide it doesn't take any longer to actually use the sights.
    If not using sights is faster than using them(and still hitting your target) then no competition shooter or self defense instructor would even have sights on their gun.

    You or I getting lucky on the range point shooting or not using the sights and hitting some targets is totally different than doing it in competition or in a for real self defense situation.

    You are correct it is a function of muscle memory and that holds true for using the sights as well.

    The more you shoot the more you get to know what the "acceptable" sight picture is and what you can get away.

    Great topic for discussion:yesway:

    I gotcha big man...….:):

    I knew you would respond and glad for it. Your wisdom and experience are most welcome.
     

    Usmccookie

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    Again! I walked into the school I'm working at.... it was on lockdown. Apparently there was a shooting a block away. You would think the gun laws and no gun zones would prevent this crap.
    I know I know no one is surprised. Just thought I'd share.
     

    mcapo

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    I'm all for that...but if I wanted to drive over an hour I'd just keep the land in Vincennes and drive 2.5 hours

    Yep. I get it. It’s nice to be within an hour so you can go without losing and entire day.

    If you can afford to buy ground, buy as much as you can.

    I have 50 acres in NY that I will sell you cheap. Really really really cheap.
     

    MindfulMan

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    Looks nice. Could use a lot more trees for me, but maybe you dont want trees
    Did somebody say "trees" ? :D
    I got'sa lots of trees ..... 1hr, 10 minutes from driveway to driveway.

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