The Democrat Primary Race Is Filling Up

[actaeon277]

I see that all the time but it’s nonsense, why would Biden go through all the trouble to get elected and then step aside for Hillary?

$$$$$

 

[KLB]

$$$$$

That pretty much comes with having been President.

 

[Kutnupe14]

$$$$$

I'm betting Bloomberg has that easily covered.

 

[SheepDog4Life]

"Same". Not.

Looks like you caught the Giuliani virus.

Gotta agree that they're not the same.

Demanding a foreign leader to fire a prosecutor to stop and apparently cover-up family corruption is not the same as asking a favor of a foreign leader to re-start the same corruption investigation of a potential election rival.

One is definitely worse than the other...

Anyway.

Not the first time Liz Warren had to leave a race.

Definitely rep-worthy if it weren't for the rep-blockers.

 

[Leadeye]

Unless he has some serious health issue between now and the convention Joe is the nominee. Bernie's people will be shown the door and then they will go to Starbucks, pull out their cell phones to pout and whine. No different than in 2016. The super delegates, big money, and the media have their champion.

 

[actaeon277]

Unless he has some serious health issue between now and the convention Joe is the nominee. Bernie's people will be shown the door and then they will go to Starbucks, pull out their cell phones to pout and whine. No different than in 2016. The super delegates, big money, and the media have their champion.

There will be more disruptions in Seattle.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Gotta agree that they're not the same.

Demanding a foreign leader to fire a prosecutor to stop and apparently cover-up family corruption is not the same as extorting a favor of a foreign leader to re-start the same corruption investigation of a potential election rival.

One is definitely worse than the other...





Definitely rep-worthy if it weren't for the rep-blockers.

FIFY

 

[Leadeye]

For a long time I figured Hillary would get into the race, but now I think she's done. She doesn't bring much that Joe doesn't already have, maybe a little more of the "shrill sister" media strength and then there's the down side. A line from the Godfather comes to mind when Tom Hagen tells Sonny that Solozzo wouldn't let you get within a mile of him even if he had 10 police captains for protection.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

If Biden wins the nomination, and if he were smart, he would choose Bernie as his VP. Young people aren’t going to vote for Biden, their slogans are Bernie or nothing. And older people aren’t going to vote for Bernie, well, the sane ones anyway. But if you put them together you get the young and old voters. Problem for them is, most of the independents wouldn’t vote for either of them, and trump wins regardless. And a lot more AA citizens are supporting trump this time around. Democrats are pretty much screwed this election and they know it, might as well start trying to put people in place for 2024 and count this one as an L

 

[BugI02]

Come on fellas. Lets not get the mouse involved here. Step back a notch.

Even if I agree.

Didn't we have at least one member leveling similar, equally baseless criticisms of the first lady? Just sayin'

 

[BugI02]

Come on fellas. Lets not get the mouse involved here. Step back a notch.

Even if I agree.

Didn't we have at least one member leveling similar, equally baseless criticisms of the first lady? Just sayin'

Edit: Dr 12pm, if #4385 was meant as sarcasm, it seems best to make sure it's overt (purple)

 

[Leadeye]

I won't be voting for Biden, but the election is his to lose. Big media will keep whipping up the "orange man bad" hysteria, and the dc machine,#resist people, and big money establishment will work hard for him. That combined with his bumbling harmless drunken uncle at Christmas gig make a pretty formidable combination. I think President's Trump's best bet will be to focus on the people around him rather than him directly, but that's not his style. Those are probably the people making all of his decisions anyway.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So who'll be his VP?

Some say Pete... I don't see the benefit of doing that. VP's are supposed to make up for the President's negative qualities... but Pete just seems like a pure detriment.

Biden is good with the black vote, and is experienced.
Pete is bad with the black vote, and is inexperienced.

Some say it's because labels, like the gay-issues crowd. But that's mostly just dullards that don't care about qualifications, just labels.

Maybe a woman? Could be a way to pidgeonhole the "first woman president" if something were to go wrong with Biden.

But this is all hypothetical, since I just don't see him winning.

 

[BugI02]

I'm seeing all kinds of articles about "America would never have elected Warren because of misogyny".
Right..can't be because they don't like her.
After all, she got elected to her present office.

This is so widespread and so ridiculous. If a candidate has any intersections, if you don't elect them then the electorate is -phobic. It's never because the intersectional candidate is awful. This seems to be an extension of the 'my truth' canard as a substitute for 'the truth'

Just today reading about how some Bernie apparatchick lecturing us about (paraphrasing) 'How dare a white person have an interpretation of MLK at variance with the accepted views of POCs' yet they lecture us all the time about what the founding fathers really meant but they have no intersectionality with them. Their rules are like their morals, situational

 

[SheepDog4Life]

FIFY

Was that in Schiff's faux transcript... "you've got 6 hours or no money!"?

One way of looking at it was that Trump held the aid and then asked for a favor on the call - the quid pro quo was implied.

Another way of looking at it was the aid was going to Ukraine and this was the first call WITH A NEW UKRANIAN president, and it was a "sh*t test" to see if he was real about looking into corruption.

Biden's family money funnel aside... Burisma was high oligarchy corruption... the guy assigned himself 36 gas and oil leases when he was resource minister and made out like a bandit. Before Biden demanded the prosecutor be fired, the CEO had numerous criminal complaints against him, investigations were being opened into his sister/shell companies in addition to Burisma, he was facing repaying $78 M in taxes, and he had fled the country to avoid arrest.

6 months later, after the Biden extortion demand, with a new prosecutor, all investigations were closed, all criminal charges dropped, paid 1/10th of the taxes, $7.5M and called it an accounting error... and the CEO was right back in Ukraine, back to cranking out his corrupt oil/gas profits.

Corrupt oligarch made whole in one fell swoop... no malarkey.

 

[BugI02]

He will pick Hillary Clinton.
Then after a few months, [STRIKE]resign[/STRIKE] [die under mysterious circumstances].
Then Clinton becomes Pres.

Fixy

 

[Kutnupe14]

Was that in Schiff's faux transcript... "you've got 6 hours or no money!"?

One way of looking at it was that Trump held the aid and then asked for a favor on the call - the quid pro quo was implied.

Another way of looking at it was the aid was going to Ukraine and this was the first call WITH A NEW UKRANIAN president, and it was a "sh*t test" to see if he was real about looking into corruption.

Biden's family money funnel aside... Burisma was high oligarchy corruption... the guy assigned himself 36 gas and oil leases when he was resource minister and made out like a bandit. Before Biden demanded the prosecutor be fired, the CEO had numerous criminal complaints against him, investigations were being opened into his sister/shell companies in addition to Burisma, he was facing repaying $78 M in taxes, and he had fled the country to avoid arrest.

6 months later, after the Biden extortion demand, with a new prosecutor, all investigations were closed, all criminal charges dropped, paid 1/10th of the taxes, $7.5M and called it an accounting error... and the CEO was right back in Ukraine, back to cranking out his corrupt oil/gas profits.

Corrupt oligarch made whole in one fell swoop... no malarkey.

Question. Do you think Biden knew he doing wrong when he threatened to withhold money from the Ukraine unless they fired their corrupt prosecutor?

 

[SheepDog4Life]

So who'll be his VP?

Some say Pete... I don't see the benefit of doing that. VP's are supposed to make up for the President's negative qualities... but Pete just seems like a pure detriment.

Biden is good with the black vote, and is experienced.
Pete is bad with the black vote, and is inexperienced.

Some say it's because labels, like the gay-issues crowd. But that's mostly just dullards that don't care about qualifications, just labels.

Maybe a woman? Could be a way to pidgeonhole the "first woman president" if something were to go wrong with Biden.

But this is all hypothetical, since I just don't see him winning.

I can see that he's leaving open the possibility of Warren... hence the no endorsement from her camp for Bernie. Re-energize the female vote... because IMO, Warren only got as far as she did BECAUSE she's a woman. And, she can shape-shift into any policy position required to fit with Biden.

A chance to bring the "moderate" and progressive wings together at/after the convention... lot's of miles to walk, and gaffe's to recover from, before then.

Possibly Booker or Harris, if the gods of the Dem establishment deem one of them to be the next coming of Obama, to get out the black vote turn out in the general.

Whichever, at the time, seems like the most likely to increase turn-out.

 

[BugI02]

So who'll be his VP?

Some say Pete... I don't see the benefit of doing that. VP's are supposed to make up for the President's negative qualities... but Pete just seems like a pure detriment.

Biden is good with the black vote, and is experienced.
Pete is bad with the black vote, and is inexperienced.

Some say it's because labels, like the gay-issues crowd. But that's mostly just dullards that don't care about qualifications, just labels.

Maybe a woman? Could be a way to pidgeonhole the "first woman president" if something were to go wrong with Biden.

But this is all hypothetical, since I just don't see him winning.

Scary scenario, Romney becomes his VP. He gets the block, in the sub-committee, of the senate subpoena of Blue Star that he desperately wants and then Romney switches parties and further slims the Republican majority and increases the leverage of the other squishy Repubs in the senate

Romney is all about Romney

 

[Ingomike]

So who'll be his VP?

Some say Pete... I don't see the benefit of doing that. VP's are supposed to make up for the President's negative qualities... but Pete just seems like a pure detriment.

Biden is good with the black vote, and is experienced.
Pete is bad with the black vote, and is inexperienced.

Some say it's because labels, like the gay-issues crowd. But that's mostly just dullards that don't care about qualifications, just labels.

Maybe a woman? Could be a way to pidgeonhole the "first woman president" if something were to go wrong with Biden.

But this is all hypothetical, since I just don't see him winning.

Stacy Abrahms. It checks too many boxes Biden needs...

This post is not to imply I think the primary race over...