The Democrat Primary Race Has Filled Up

[BugI02]

years...
year
trillion, billion, million

"...years" is not exactly an exact specification, so I went with first year - figuring that if a president was committed to reducing spending, he would do so in his first fiscal budget

Feel free to expand/expound that definition, or prevaricate in whatever other manner you wish. Does it count if he raised it the first year but then dropped from that raised figure the second? The 'point' is still, what's your point?

 

[foszoe]

I am really confused sometimes. I thought Republicans favored less government spending/Democrats more government spending...isn't here a meme floating around here about it?

Draining the swamp....by adding more water. Trickle economics.

It dilutes the swamp, I guess.

 

[Alpo]

It's just a meme, Foz. It will go away if you listen to some nice music.

 

[foszoe]

The point was not the time frame which you seem focused on it's not even on what a president is commited to so much....it's what the Republican party at least used to stand for, reduction in government spending. Is that in dispute now too?

"...years" is not exactly an exact specification, so I went with first year - figuring that if a president was committed to reducing spending, he would do so in his first fiscal budget

Feel free to expand/expound that definition, or prevaricate in whatever other manner you wish. Does it count if he raised it the first year but then dropped from that raised figure the second? The 'point' is still, what's your point?

 

[BugI02]

The point was not the time frame which you seem focused on it's not even on what a president is commited to so much....it's what the Republican party at least used to stand for, reduction in government spending. Is that in dispute now too?

I think you're conflating (for Alpo) republican with conservative. If Republicans were so in favor of reduced government spending, why is it they never delivered it?

The argument is that some people pay lip service to a concept, like fiscal responsibility or we're better than that, when it suits their other agenda(s) - and movement conservatives are not exempt from the flaw. It is oh so easy to be a back-bencher

 

[foszoe]

I think I mentioned that yesterday as part of my frustration. They will talk about it all the time. They will pass balanced budgets, kill Obamacare, and all sorts of other nice things...until they actually have the numbers to ram it through.

I think you're conflating (for Alpo) republican with conservative. If Republicans were so in favor of reduced government spending, why is it they never delivered it?

The argument is that some people pay lip service to a concept, like fiscal responsibility or we're better than that, when it suits their other agenda(s) - and movement conservatives are not exempt from the flaw. It is oh so easy to be a back-bencher

 

[BugI02]

So, what conclusion do you draw from that? That if smaller government is important to you, you should elect Democrats - or vote third party (which in a close election is arguably the same thing)?

Small government or WBTT voters are in the same bind that 2A voters are. As long as the other viable party is so much worse than the Republicans on those issues, they can sorta' take you for granted

 

[nonobaddog]

When there are only 2 choices and neither one is ideal, that just means you don't get ideal. Vote for the one that makes the most sense to you.

You know - decide if you like socialism or America.

 

[foszoe]

I haven't drawn a conclusion yet.

That argument is also getting old. I think the frog and hot water one is making more and more sense. Maybe what we need is a hard left tilt and find out if there really is a silent majority or if they are just a frog.

So, what conclusion do you draw from that? That if smaller government is important to you, you should elect Democrats - or vote third party (which in a close election is arguably the same thing)?

Small government or WBTT voters are in the same bind that 2A voters are. As long as the other viable party is so much worse than the Republicans on those issues, they can sorta' take you for granted

 

[Alpo]

When there are only 2 choices and neither one is ideal, that just means you don't get ideal. Vote for the one that makes the most sense to you.

You know - decide if you like socialism or America.

Yeah. I've seen your America. Jackbooted thugs putting a man to death on the streets of Minneapolis.

Bravo.

 

[jamil]

I haven't drawn a conclusion yet.

That argument is also getting old. I think the frog and hot water one is making more and more sense. Maybe what we need is a hard left tilt and find out if there really is a silent majority or if they are just a frog.

No. Hard. Left. You can't recover from that without <censored>.

 

[jamil]

Yeah. I've seen your America. Jackbooted thugs putting a man to death on the streets of Minneapolis.

Bravo.

That's a pretty far leap don't you think?

 

[Alpo]

No. Not when you call everyone you don't like a socialist or traitor. No, not at all.

 

[churchmouse]

Yeah. I've seen your America. Jackbooted thugs putting a man to death on the streets of Minneapolis.

Bravo.

OK that's and you know it,. This is not my America. So I am guessing you are OK with the response of the masses going shopping with force due to the crap 1 LEO pulled.

Yeah this is getting to me as it is all of you but hell no. That is not my America damnit. None of that crap is My America.

Yeah a hard left tilt sounds like an absolutely wonderful ****ing idea to me. HMOG.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Yeah. I've seen your America. Jackbooted thugs putting a man to death on the streets of Minneapolis.

Bravo.

Which party is in charge in Minneapolis Alpo? Whose America were you looking at again?

 

[churchmouse]

Which party is in charge in Minneapolis Alpo? Whose America were you looking at again?

 

[jamil]

No. Not when you call everyone you don't like a socialist or traitor. No, not at all.

Yeah, but you're basically saying that that's NNBD's world. Maybe you could ask him if he supported what the cops did. Why must name calling be exactly the same thing as wanting jackbooted thugs to kill black people?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

It's been democrat-controlled for the last 47 years. Should be pretty utopian by now, dontcha think?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Who knew Utopia involved so much burning and looting?

 

[Alpo]

I get tired of everyone who disagrees with the conservative/GOP platform labeled as a socialist.

It may be a democratic mayor in Minneapolis.

You wanna bet what party that cop supports? I'll double your cheeseburger and raise you a large order of fries.

I am more than willing to tone down the rhetoric. But it should be a two-way street, don'tcha think?