The Democrat Primary Race Has Filled Up

[Tombs]

Yeah. I've seen your America. Jackbooted thugs putting a man to death on the streets of Minneapolis.

Bravo.

If you want to play that game, the America you are advocating for is burning everything to the ground.

 

[nonobaddog]

Yeah. I've seen your America. Jackbooted thugs putting a man to death on the streets of Minneapolis.

Bravo.

You see - that isn't America. That is one of many of the large cities run by dumocraps - and run into the ground by dumocraps. If you think that is America you are wrong. No big deal - you gotta be used to that.

What I do is try real hard to stay away from any of the large left-run cities - including Minneapolis.

 

[jamil]

I get tired of everyone who disagrees with the conservative/GOP platform labeled as a socialist.

It may be a democratic mayor in Minneapolis.

You wanna bet what party that cop supports? I'll double your cheeseburger and raise you a large order of fries.

I am more than willing to tone down the rhetoric. But it should be a two-way street, don'tcha think?

Well, yeah. But that's how it goes. You go to a progressive site and everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi.

 

[foszoe]

That can be an endless back and forth. Lots of right wing fringe groups too

If you want to play that game, the America you are advocating for is burning everything to the ground.

 

[Alpo]

Well, yeah. But that's how it goes. You go to a progressive site and everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi.

Oh....so it's OK?

Great. I do applaud you for finally coming off the fence on your generally otoh responses, amigo.

I still believe the cop isn't a democrat.

 

[nonobaddog]

Yeah, but you're basically saying that that's NNBD's world. Maybe you could ask him if he supported what the cops did. Why must name calling be exactly the same thing as wanting jackbooted thugs to kill black people?

Oh Funny - that sure isn't "my" world. I don't even go there.

I sure do NOT support what the cops did there. I was happy to see that four of them got fired! As in "fired" - not put on a temporary paid vacation like most of them get.

 

[printcraft]

I get tired of everyone who disagrees with the conservative/GOP platform labeled as a socialist.

It may be a democratic mayor in Minneapolis.

You wanna bet what party that cop supports? I'll double your cheeseburger and raise you a large order of fries.

I am more than willing to tone down the rhetoric. But it should be a two-way street, don'tcha think?

That's quite a leap guy.

[FONT=&quot]For his fourth visit to the state in 16 months, the president chose a Democratic bastion that hasn’t elected a Republican mayor in nearly half a century and is represented by Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, a Democrat who has dubbed herself the president’s “biggest nemesis.”
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Trump’s rally at the Target Center on Oct. 10 will put the nation’s political divide into high relief, something neither side sees as an accident. The city-owned facility sits in a state House district that Trump lost to Hillary Clinton in 2016, garnering just under 13% to Clinton’s 78%.[/FONT]

https://www.startribune.com/trump-h...he-beast-for-his-minneapolis-rally/561583842/

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Well, yeah. But that's how it goes. You go to a progressive site and everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi.

Oh....so it's OK?

He ain't wrong, though. I constantly try and remind members that this really isn't black-and-white binary beliefs... but that's how some see it... apocalyptic ends if this candidate wins... so surely all voters approve of absolutely everything that involves that end.

Even among the "right-minded" here, there is a spectrum... even among the ones that see anything left of them as "socialist"... there's even variances between them!

I think it's just fun for some to frame things as apocalyptic on the internet, makes the conversation/debate easier to jump in and out of because you can discount arguments quickly by throwing labels around instead of looking at the ideas and the points being made.

It's very easy to turn off conversation when you just label someone that doesn't think like you as an awful thing. A reasonable, right-minded person going to the Vox comments section could make some good arguments... but one person calling them a Nazi is enough to get the pile-on started. Seeing anyone here call you, Alpo, a socialist or something (just an example, not sure if anyone has)... it gets those pheromones in the digital air, and others are liable to stalk in and feed on that.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

For the record, I have never thought Alpo was a socialist, and for the most part I think he's usually pretty level-headed even when he's saying things I don't agree with. That's why the "I've seen your America" comment took me aback. I don't know the political bent of the cop(s) involved, but I do know who is in charge of the police force and who is ultimately responsible for their policies and who has been for the last 47 years. And I see who is allowing the lawlessness go on now. As Hough said earlier, two injustices don't equal justice.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

For the record, I have never thought Alpo was a socialist, and for the most part I think he's usually pretty level-headed even when he's saying things I don't agree with. That's why the "I've seen your America" comment took me aback. I don't know the political bent of the cop(s) involved, but I do know who is in charge of the police force and who is ultimately responsible for their policies and who has been for the last 47 years. And I see who is allowing the lawlessness go on now. As Hough said earlier, two injustices don't equal justice.

Another thing that happens often in conversations-turn-debates-turn-arguments... you can initially meet somewhere in the middle, but once more people get involved... you start getting pulled (and pushed) outward to the edges... where you might start using more flippant one-liners and dismissive rhetoric. Almost everyone does this, just the nature of online conversation-debate-arguing.

 

[jamil]

Oh....so it's OK?

Great. I do applaud you for finally coming off the fence on your generally otoh responses, amigo.

I still believe the cop isn't a democrat.

No. I’m saying that you are doing the same thing.

 

[jamil]

And what is your belief in the officer’s political affiliation based on?

I don’t know what his affiliation is, or even if he has one. Your belief seems to be that only republicans can be bad. How is that any different from all democrats are socialists?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

The cop has been on the force since 2001, has had 12 complaints filed against him with no disciplinary action other than one letter of reprimand. That's on leadership.

 

[Alpo]

He ain't wrong, though. I constantly try and remind members that this really isn't black-and-white binary beliefs... but that's how some see it... apocalyptic ends if this candidate wins... so surely all voters approve of absolutely everything that involves that end.

Even among the "right-minded" here, there is a spectrum... even among the ones that see anything left of them as "socialist"... there's even variances between them!

I think it's just fun for some to frame things as apocalyptic on the internet, makes the conversation/debate easier to jump in and out of because you can discount arguments quickly by throwing labels around instead of looking at the ideas and the points being made.

It's very easy to turn off conversation when you just label someone that doesn't think like you as an awful thing. A reasonable, right-minded person going to the Vox comments section could make some good arguments... but one person calling them a Nazi is enough to get the pile-on started. Seeing anyone here call you, Alpo, a socialist or something (just an example, not sure if anyone has)... it gets those pheromones in the digital air, and others are liable to stalk in and feed on that.

I consider myself an old school, middle of the road, law & order, mistrust big business democrat.

Seems to me, a few of the "conservatives" here could do with a dose of that.

If it is called "socialism" by some, then I'd say they don't understand the economic structure of this country very well.

 

[Alpo]

For the record, I have never thought Alpo was a socialist, and for the most part I think he's usually pretty level-headed even when he's saying things I don't agree with. That's why the "I've seen your America" comment took me aback. I don't know the political bent of the cop(s) involved, but I do know who is in charge of the police force and who is ultimately responsible for their policies and who has been for the last 47 years. And I see who is allowing the lawlessness go on now. As Hough said earlier, two injustices don't equal justice.

I don't know Minneapolis very well. I worked up there a few times and, of course, we learn by what we read. It seems to have all of the problems of a large city; but, I'd say it's much better run than most. Generally, political party and platforms don't mean as much at the city level...unless we take idiotic places like Detroit, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco and NYC into the mix. My impression was that Minneapolis is run better than those quagmires. I could be wrong.

I certainly don't favor riots as a means of achieving any goals or expressing rage. I do believe this cop should get LWOP and if it's a short life, that's on him.

 

[Alpo]

And what is your belief in the officer’s political affiliation based on?

I don’t know what his affiliation is, or even if he has one. Your belief seems to be that only republicans can be bad. How is that any different from all democrats are socialists?

It's a bet, dude. You wanna take it? I don't need a backstory or analysis.

You wanna bet, put your cheeseburger in and ante up.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I don't know Minneapolis very well. I worked up there a few times and, of course, we learn by what we read. It seems to have all of the problems of a large city; but, I'd say it's much better run than most. Generally, political party and platforms don't mean as much at the city level...unless we take idiotic places like Detroit, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco and NYC into the mix. My impression was that Minneapolis is run better than those quagmires. I could be wrong.

I certainly don't favor riots as a means of achieving any goals or expressing rage. I do believe this cop should get LWOP and if it's a short life, that's on him.

Going by recent history, it seems to be quite a mess, at least when it comes to policing. Castille, Damond (killed by a black officer btw - but surprisingly no riots ensued), and now Lloyd. As an aside, LWOP to me means "Leave WithOut Pay". (I work on a DoD payroll system though. ) Took me a second to figure out what you meant (Life WithOut Parole).

 

[jamil]

It's a bet, dude. You wanna take it? I don't need a backstory or analysis.

You wanna bet, put your cheeseburger in and ante up.

I’d say it’s even odds. I wouldn’t bet on heads coming up next flip. But anyway, you find yourself down this way? I’ll buy you a cheeseburger either way.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Going by recent history, it seems to be quite a mess, at least when it comes to policing. Castille, Damond (killed by a black officer btw - but surprisingly no riots ensued), and now Lloyd. As an aside, LWOP to me means "Leave WithOut Pay". (I work on a DoD payroll system though. ) Took me a second to figure out what you meant (Life WithOut Parole).

ETA: Minneapolis is represented by Ilhan Omar, so there's that. Sounds like more than a little bat-**** crazy up there.

 

[Alpo]

ETA: Minneapolis is represented by Ilhan Omar, so there's that. Sounds like more than a little bat-**** crazy up there.

Looks to me like bat-**** crazy goes both ways up there.


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