Covid Friend Being Denied Medication

[Ingomike]

Following rumors around will make you sicker. There are doctors advocating for Ivermectin but people seem to want to get cattle medicine and self medicate. I don't understand that.

Why did people want bathtub gin in prohibition?

Why do people want meth?

Because government blocked them from getting what they really wanted.

No one ever would have chose bathtub gin over professionally produced gin. When government got good at blocking heroin then meth sprang up.

No one wants cattle meds

It is all about government interference and nanny statism...

 

[DadSmith]

NOPE

Actually I read you WHOLE post.

My guess is you didn't read what I posted in reply but just looked at the headlines and replied.

I am hopeful that Ivermectin is useful. Data suggests it MIGHT be useful in EARLY stages. That has been stated (and ignored) before. If, as you stated, your loved one was refused treatment in a hospital then that means your loved one is probably already TOO SICK to get ANY BENEFIT from Ivermectin as the scant evidence that it works is shown be a benefit largely in very early stage disease, before they get into the hospital.

If you or a loved on want Ivermectin then you want it as soon as you are diagnosed, not a week or more later, so you want to contact the FLCCC and get it prescribed from them quickly.

Following rumors around will make you sicker. There are doctors advocating for Ivermectin but people seem to want to get cattle medicine and self medicate. I don't understand that.

All that you posted when I replied was what I quoted.

The rest you added later I'll look at it now.

However you did ignore that I said there were several drugs that have been listed in this thread that should be tried. In fact you listed some as well.

"There are several medications listed in this thread that are supposed to work. It's time to start tying each until you get results."

But you got hung up on Invermectin from Rural King.

 

[melensdad]

Why did people want bathtub gin in prohibition?

Why do people want meth?

Because government blocked them from getting what they really wanted.

No one ever would have chose bathtub gin over professionally produced gin. When government got good at blocking heroin then meth sprang up.

No one wants cattle meds

It is all about government interference and nanny statism...

WTF?

You can contact one of the doctors advocating for Ivermectin and get it, actual HUMAN ivermectin, in proper doses, with instruction on how to use it. The FLCCC physicians have been very helpful but people, rather than doing a little web search for an actual doctor who will prescribe it, would rather do stupid crap.

I don't understand this logic.

 

[Ingomike]

WTF?

You can contact one of the doctors advocating for Ivermectin and get it, actual HUMAN ivermectin, in proper doses, with instruction on how to use it. The FLCCC physicians have been very helpful but people, rather than doing a little web search for an actual doctor who will prescribe it, would rather do stupid crap.

I don't understand this logic.

WTF? Just what is the thread topic? Oh, can't get the meds they want...

 

[DadSmith]

WTF?

You can contact one of the doctors advocating for Ivermectin and get it, actual HUMAN ivermectin, in proper doses, with instruction on how to use it. The FLCCC physicians have been very helpful but people, rather than doing a little web search for an actual doctor who will prescribe it, would rather do stupid crap.

I don't understand this logic.

No one is advocating for using veterinarian drugs yet. You missread and refuse to accept it.


Just because one man in Mississippi OD on it doesn't mean thousands have.


It looks like people that are having problems are using the paste like you thought of lol.

There is the injection type I posted which is much closer to if not surpasses the human version. It has to be good because it is used on cattle, and goats and I have personal experience with giving to both.

 

[melensdad]

WTF? Just what is the thread topic? Oh, can't get the meds they want...

Can't get the meds they want because they waited too long and didn't contact the doctors that actually would prescribe what they want to try. Not that it would matter much because data indicates it probably would be ineffective at this late stage anyway.

If people want ivermectin, or even just a chance to use it, in the future, they need to figure out how to get it. As has been described in various INGO threads, you can get human ivermectin prescribed by a doctor but you need to find a doctor willing to do that. There is an entire association of doctors willing to prescribe ivermectin and links to them have been posted. Their group has been mentioned many times.

But people would rather make bathtub gin than find legitimate sources.

Again, louder for the people in the back of the room. IF Ivermectin works it seems to be most effective at EARLY STAGES of the disease. IF you want to get it, you need to take it immediately after a positive test. By the time you go to the hospital it is probably too late to be helped by it. Contact the FLCCC or one of the other doctors groups that advocate for Ivermectin. It is a lot easier and safer than experimenting with cattle medicine.

 

[Tactically Fat]

VEKLURY® (remdesivir) | FDA Approved | Official Patient Site

Discover VEKLURY® (remdesivir), an antiviral treatment for COVID-19. FDA approved. See Important Safety Information.

www.veklury.com

This is an FDA approved covid drug have they tried it?

Edit: here is another drug made by Lilly.

Lilly's neutralizing antibody bamlanivimab (LY-CoV555) receives FDA emergency use authorization for the treatment of recently diagnosed COVID-19 | Eli Lilly and Company

The Investor Relations website contains information about Eli Lilly and Company's business for stockholders, potential investors, and financial analysts.

investor.lilly.com

No, no, no. They should definitely use drugs A) not approved for and B) not effective on Covid-19.

 

[Floki]

Enraging. Having worked for a hospital ive seen how greedy and corrupt they are, but those arrogant Dr.s...

Ive been taking Hydroxycholorquine preventatively for months now, the KGB CVS wont fill it because they have to verify diagnosis with the Dr. which was a brief phone appointment from out of state. I am paying 60.00 for it from a pharm in FL.

Security? Really, blast out that Dr name as a public service!

 

[KLB]

Is it the pharmacy or your insurance?

 

[Floki]

How Do I Get COVID-19 Medication? - America's Frontline Doctors

1 Click on the contact a physician button below. Fill out the form and pay $90. The physician will call you typically within 2-7 days (not counting weekends). Please keep your phone with you. After your telemed appointment, the pharmacy will contact you for your payment information and mailing...

americasfrontlinedoctors.org

This organization has been trying to get ivermectin/HCQ prescriptions out to people. Dunno what they'll be able to do for someone already in this hospital but it may be worth contacting them.

I 100% believe people are being denied medication and effectively euthanized via ventilation in order to protect the vaccine and suppress therapeutics. The entire concept of treating the illness has been branded a conspiracy theory and most hospital doctors would rather kill patients than be seen as Trump sympathizers or whatever.

This is how I got HCQ

 

[Floki]

It's too bad the guy has COVID and is in such bad shape...
I don't like to hear about anyone dying, and especially dying slowly.

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1. Vaccine 90%-96% effective & free,
2. Vaccine available for at least 6 months before this guy got sick,
3. Doctors CAN NOT treat with PROVEN ineffective drugs BY LAW,
4. Ivermectin overdoses are being hospitalized, in the news yet again today,
5. There are no 'Science Denier'/'Anti-Vaxer' hospitals to move him to...
(Trump Memorial Hospital doesn't exist)

This was 90%-96% preventable,
BUT,
This guy was a science denier, and NOW wants science to save his butt...
This is the consequence of believing the anti-vaxer propaganda, you reap what you sow.

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Best wishes to him & his family, but I'm very skeptical anything will move through the courts fast enough to make a difference,
Mostly just wasting courts time like he's wasting hospital/doctor/nurse time because he wouldn't get a vaccination.

It's 100%, entirely self inflicted...

No denying the very potential and vastly unreported fatal side effects of the experimental vax either

 

[melensdad]

No denying the very potential and vastly unreported fatal side effects of the experimental vax either

It is no longer experimental. It has been given full approval. And serious side effects are actually very rare, statistically more rare than serious side effects from HCQ.

 

[DadSmith]

It is no longer experimental. It has been given full approval. And serious side effects are actually very rare, statistically more rare than serious side effects from HCQ.

Yet they have no clue what will happen to those vexed in 5-10 years.

One thing happening now and under reported is antibody-dependent enhancement that the covid vaccines are causing.

 

[Floki]

as if i trust the fda now anyway lol

 

[DadSmith]

“Children’s Health Defense considers this approval process for the COVID Pfizer vaccine premature, arbitrary and capricious,” said CHD president Mary Holland. “With over 13,000 reported deaths from COVID shots, we are deeply concerned about the impact on health, both short- and long-term. We intend to challenge this approval and licensure. We do not believe that this approval will significantly affect the trajectory of the pandemic, as we know that these shots are less than 50% effective against the variant in circulation now.”

 

[melensdad]

“Children’s Health Defense considers this approval process for the COVID Pfizer vaccine premature, arbitrary and capricious,” said CHD president Mary Holland. “With over 13,000 reported deaths from COVID shots, we are deeply concerned about the impact on health, both short- and long-term. We intend to challenge this approval and licensure. We do not believe that this approval will significantly affect the trajectory of the pandemic, as we know that these shots are less than 50% effective against the variant in circulation now.”

So your source is a thoroughly discredited anti-vax conspiracy theorist who has been proven wrong and who’s numbers are not proven by the source he cites after they undergo scrutiny. Wow.

Covert Anti-Vaccination in ‘Children’s Health Defense’ | Center for Inquiry

Children’s Health Defense, founded in 2016 by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The Children’s Health Defense (CHD) initiative sounds unimpeachable. Who doesn’t want children to be healthy, right? But there’s a sinister side to the organization. The CHD positions itself as a science-based advocacy...

centerforinquiry.org

 

[DadSmith]

So your source is a thoroughly discredited anti-vax conspiracy theorist who has been proven wrong and who’s numbers are not proven by the source he cites after they undergo scrutiny. Wow.

Covert Anti-Vaccination in ‘Children’s Health Defense’ | Center for Inquiry

Children’s Health Defense, founded in 2016 by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The Children’s Health Defense (CHD) initiative sounds unimpeachable. Who doesn’t want children to be healthy, right? But there’s a sinister side to the organization. The CHD positions itself as a science-based advocacy...

centerforinquiry.org

So you are denying the facts they state?

Or because they are anti vaccine?

That website you used is definitely left of center also.

 

[Super Bee]

Today the attorney she hired presented the hospital a letter requesting they give her husband the medication they are asking for and in exchange will not hold Parkview liable for any problems they may cause.

On a side note they agreed to let her in the hospital today and actually up in his room. They told her he is now having issues with his kidneys. I hope they can come to some sort of agreement soon.

 

[KLB]

So your source is a thoroughly discredited anti-vax conspiracy theorist who has been proven wrong and who’s numbers are not proven by the source he cites after they undergo scrutiny. Wow.

Covert Anti-Vaccination in ‘Children’s Health Defense’ | Center for Inquiry

Children’s Health Defense, founded in 2016 by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The Children’s Health Defense (CHD) initiative sounds unimpeachable. Who doesn’t want children to be healthy, right? But there’s a sinister side to the organization. The CHD positions itself as a science-based advocacy...

centerforinquiry.org

So anyone that questions the safety of vaccinations is an anti-vaxer? Sounds a lot like climate denier. Label someone a nasty name and just disregard everything they have to say after that.

People should question vaccines and any other medication someone wants to put in their body or their children.

I posted this earlier, but it bears repeating. As of Oct 1, 1988 you cannot sue a manufacturer for bad side effects from a vaccine. At that time the recommended vaccine list was

Late 1970s | Recommended Vaccines​

Diphtheria*
Tetanus*
Pertussis*
Polio (OPV)
Measles**
Mumps**
Rubella**

Now, children could receive as many as 27 shots by 2 years of age and up to six shots in a single visit.

That's nuts. They keep adding more and more.

Vaccine History: Developments by Year | Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

In this section, you will learn about the history of vaccine development and when the different vaccines were added to the annual childhood immunization schedule.

www.chop.edu

Recommended Vaccines by Age | CDC

Learn which vaccines are recommended for each age group, so you can keep you and your family up to date on recommended vaccines.

www.cdc.gov

 

[dmarsh8]

Maybe try Dr. Daniel Stock.
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317-559-2515