I wonder what that is?
Those things are so dumb. I can’t believe any gun owner would waste their money on them.
I think you missed the point of where this thread was heading. Re-read the first three responses.People w/ legit disabilities, who may soon have to register their AR pistol because of this asinine BS, will beg to differ.
And I hope the rest of us don’t feel the same way when the ATF tries to come after whatever it is you own:
First They Came For
by Martin Niemöller
In Germany, first they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak out because I was Protestant.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Lots of allegories like this out there. Keep that in mind…
I think you missed the point of where this thread was heading. Re-read the first three responses.
How many bump stocks were turned in. And most people saw those as range toys. They were only upset at the give an inch thing. Braces are extremely more common. Manufactures even ship weapons with braces.I personally think ATF has shot their foot with this one. They say that only 2-3 million of these exist when I see sales figures that point to well over 20 million.
It begs the question, at what point does it become common use?
Additionally with ATF already pushing paper form waits back well over 1 year at what point does the concept of “a right denied is a right delayed” come into play?
If even 10% comply it’s going to cause a complete gridlock with poorly filled out form 1 forms.
Maybe one of the legal beagles will come along and correct me but I think ATF has set a ball on the tee for the next case to strike a home run.
They used to even come with the letter from ATF saying it was legal...How many bump stocks were turned in. And most people saw those as range toys. They were only upset at the give an inch thing. Braces are extremely more common. Manufactures even ship weapons with braces.
Sounds like a pretty good place to stand our ground. Ianal, but this feels like a strong legal case in our favor. Might as well dig our heels in and make them come for them, or see them in court.They used to even come with the letter from ATF saying it was legal...
ex post factoSounds like a pretty good place to stand our ground. Ianal, but this feels like a strong legal case in our favor. Might as well dig our heels in and make them come for them, or see them in court.
Just spitballin here of course.
The sentiment that ex post facto laws are against natural right is so strong in the United States, that few, if any, of the State constitutions have failed to proscribe them. ...The federal constitution indeed interdicts them in criminal cases only; but they are equally unjust in civil as in criminal cases, and the omission of a caution which would have been right, does not justify the doing what is wrong. Nor ought it to be presumed that the legislature meant to use a phrase in an unjustifiable sense, if by rules of construction it can be ever strained to what is just.
— Thomas Jefferson
Not a lawyer but sending in a photo of what the government is planning on considering a felony seems like a terrible idea.So after you send in a photo and file for the SBR and are approved can you take the brace off and put a normal buttstock and buffer tube on? Or are you stuck with the brace forever?