Train derailment in Ohio and chemical release

[JettaKnight]

BNSF train carrying ethanol in Minnesota derails and catches fire, forcing evacuations in small town

Residents of Raymond, Minnesota have been ordered to evacuate Thursday following the derailment of a Burlington Northern Santa Fe train, which sparked a fire.

www.foxbusiness.com

Not tracking - what does this have to do with the war in Ukraine?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Not tracking - what does this have to do with the war in Ukraine?

I think the person that tweeted it is just a Ukraine supporter. Like the people with the Ukrainian flags on their facebook profile pics.

 

[JettaKnight]

I think the person that tweeted it is just a Ukraine supporter. Like the people with the Ukrainian flags on their facebook profile pics.

Another reason to hate Twitter - messes with my OCD.

 

[printcraft]

Another reason to hate Twitter - messes with my OCD.

Sorry I am to hear misfortune about your.

 

[rhamersley]

Sorry I am to hear misfortune about your.

That should be...
"About am hear I misfortune sorry to your"

 

[printcraft]

That should be...
"About am hear I misfortune sorry to your"

Exatcly

 

[BugI02]

That should be...
"About am hear I misfortune sorry to your"

Or 'I am to hear your about sorry misfortune'

 

[JettaKnight]

.... twitching so hard right now ...

 

[DadSmith]

Train derailment in western Minnesota: Fires still burning hours after crash

More than a dozen rail cars on a BNSF train derailed near Raymond, Minnesota, early Thursday, with several derailed tankers carrying ethanol starting on fire.

www.fox9.com

Updated at 0935

 

[Ingomike]

ESG strikes again…

“Norfolk Southern Railways devoted approximately 5 percent of its 2021 expenditures to ESG climate activism, shorting essential programs like rail safety, a review of Norfolk Southern documents reveals. The revelations that Norfolk Southern prioritized ESG climate activism over rail safety occur at the same time Norfolk Southern refuses to reimburse the people of East Palestine, Ohio, for their health problems, lost homes, and destroyed lives resulting from the February 3 catastrophic train derailment and toxic chemical spill.”

Documents Show Norfolk Southern Prioritized Climate Activism Over Railway Safety

townhall.com

 

[Shadow01]

Wonder how long NS can survive weekly rail sabotage? Just an academic question.

 

[mdmayo]

Try reading the whole thread. Or at least start at post 25. This is all about trade-offs.

It’s a bad call. Have you ever worked hazmat emergency response? Burning spilled materials is a very last resort, and they did it as a primary action. Bad site management, full stop.

 

[cg21]

Sad how this town is living and dealing with this daily since this incident (and others downstream) yet crickets from .guv and msm…

 

[BigRed]

Has that mother ******* son of a ***** obiden shown up yet?

 

[Cameramonkey]

It’s a bad call. Have you ever worked hazmat emergency response? Burning spilled materials is a very last resort, and they did it as a primary action. Bad site management, full stop.

Well, when the alternative is the liquild being allowed to pool and poison the groundwater for possibly hundreds of miles around making the area uninhabitable...

 

[BugI02]

I have also read that they used climate activism as an excuse to run longer and longer trains, claiming that 130 and 140 car trains were creating lower greenhouse gas emissions per ton/mile. You may recall that workers were complaining it was impossible to do safety checks on trains that long in the time they were allowed but mgmt turned a deaf ear because it was more profitable

 

[Cameramonkey]

I have also read that they used climate activism as an excuse to run longer and longer trains, claiming that 130 and 140 car trains were creating lower greenhouse gas emissions per ton/mile. You may recall that workers were complaining it was impossible to do safety checks on trains that long in the time they were allowed but mgmt turned a deaf ear because it was more profitable

Huh. Imagine that.

Dont worry, there are sensors to pick up hot bearings before they can cause a problem.
And there was one. within a mile of the accident. It was detected I believe, but too late to do anything about it. (WAG) I'd assume that the bearing got too hot w a a a a a a y up the line, and by the time the sensor noticed, it failed before anyone could do anything about it. Because the sensor has to detect it. Then send a radio (and maybe also an internet based) message out. Then somebody has to hear and comprehend there is a problem, process the info, and then take corrective action. Which they would have done... probably a minute or two after it just happened to derail.

Sounds like its time to install a crap ton more sensors if they want to keep doing this crap. Based on what I've seen online (there are live google maps with them where you can even listen in to the last broadcast), they need at least double the number on some lines.

 

[Shadow01]

Huh. Imagine that.

Dont worry, there are sensors to pick up hot bearings before they can cause a problem.
And there was one. within a mile of the accident. It was detected I believe, but too late to do anything about it. (WAG) I'd assume that the bearing got too hot w a a a a a a y up the line, and by the time the sensor noticed, it failed before anyone could do anything about it. Because the sensor has to detect it. Then send a radio (and maybe also an internet based) message out. Then somebody has to hear and comprehend there is a problem, process the info, and then take corrective action. Which they would have done... probably a minute or two after it just happened to derail.

Sounds like its time to install a crap ton more sensors if they want to keep doing this crap. Based on what I've seen online (there are live google maps with them where you can even listen in to the last broadcast), they need at least double the number on some lines.

Mandate the tripping of a heat sensor automatically triggers an emergency stop of the train with no human intervention or oversight. Either these systems work or they are not needed. No use setting on the fence and having systems that need a room full of humans to interpret, categorize, then send on to the decision makers to look at later this afternoon.

maybe states need to implement DOT type forced stops and inspections like each state has for semi trucks…

 

[Doug]

Sad how this town is living and dealing with this daily since this incident (and others downstream) yet crickets from .guv and msm…

Well, it's a "fly-over" area which usually votes Republican, nobody cares.

 

[BugI02]

Huh. Imagine that.

Dont worry, there are sensors to pick up hot bearings before they can cause a problem.
And there was one. within a mile of the accident. It was detected I believe, but too late to do anything about it. (WAG) I'd assume that the bearing got too hot w a a a a a a y up the line, and by the time the sensor noticed, it failed before anyone could do anything about it. Because the sensor has to detect it. Then send a radio (and maybe also an internet based) message out. Then somebody has to hear and comprehend there is a problem, process the info, and then take corrective action. Which they would have done... probably a minute or two after it just happened to derail.

Sounds like its time to install a crap ton more sensors if they want to keep doing this crap. Based on what I've seen online (there are live google maps with them where you can even listen in to the last broadcast), they need at least double the number on some lines.

Why not a cheap thermal sensor on each axle of each car, daisy chained together by the hitches and read directly in the engine without delay. An alert requires the train be stopped and walked with a thermal imaging device