1000 yard gun - .300 or .338 laupa???

[Claddagh]

Just wondering, but where in Indiana does one go to find 1000-1200 clear meters in which to actually practice the skill sets needed to make consistent hits with anything at that range? The most extensive available target range I know of within driving distance of where I live is barely 600 yds.

 

[HeftyLefty39]

Bass and Bucks in Wabash, IN...great place...ranges of 25, 50, 100, 200, 350, 500, 750yds...and there's a new place opening up in Roanoke, IN...hillsideshootingsports.com...supposed to have a 1000yd range...they are under construction of the berms now and should be done before Christmas...otherwise you can try to get into a Palma or other long range competition at Atterbury or you can pay a $300/year fee to shoot at the one up north by Michigan...its a super cool range and has lots to offer, but its too expensive for me and too far from Indy for me.

 

[machete]

How fast does the .338 burn through barrels and how painful is it to shoot????

 

[Yeah]

Nothing is painful to shoot if you put enough weight into the rifle.

Not painful until you realize you have a 15lb range toy, anyway.

As for going through barrels they are actually pretty mild. I have around 2500 rounds through a PacNor barreled Stiller and I doubt the throat is halfway burned out.

 

[JTinIN]

Nothing is painful to shoot if you put enough weight into the rifle.

Not painful until you realize you have a 15lb range toy, anyway.

As for going through barrels they are actually pretty mild. I have around 2500 rounds through a PacNor barreled Stiller and I doubt the throat is halfway burned out.

A muzzle brake or suppressor helps a lot also, however, if one is hunting then the classic 7mm mag of some flavor is always an interesting balance (friend has a STW that works very nice ;-)

 

[Dave Doehrman]

Just wondering, but where in Indiana does one go to find 1000-1200 clear meters in which to actually practice the skill sets needed to make consistent hits with anything at that range? The most extensive available target range I know of within driving distance of where I live is barely 600 yds.

Young's Longshot Range has steel from 25 yards out to 1,000 yards and is open 365 days a year. They have a heated building with drop down windows so you can sit inside in comfort and shoot all year long. About 30 outside seats (covered for rain and sun protection) and an elevated prone platform. There's a John Deere gator to run out to paint the steel plates and hang new targets. They provide a gas grill and have burgers and pork burger patties in the freezer. Deb makes home made cookies and they have snacks to heat up in the microwave. Young's supplies spray paint, rifle rests, cleaning equipment, spotting scopes and a chronograph. There is a fridge stocked with pop and water and there's a coffee pot too.

Oh yeah, this is my home away from home. Check out their web site and look at the photos.

Youngs Long Shot Range

 

[killer1202]

.338 all the way!!!!!!!! definitely reach out and touch something and stopping power.

 

[Yoder]

338 LM is definitely the hammer when it comes to stopping power.

 

[Yeah]

Stopping power is a figment.

 

[sloughfoot]

A .243 shooting the 115 grain DTAC is the way to go for 1000 yards.

 

[SWAMPMASTER]

Young's Longshot Range has steel from 25 yards out to 1,000 yards and is open 365 days a year. They have a heated building with drop down windows so you can sit inside in comfort and shoot all year long. About 30 outside seats (covered for rain and sun protection) and an elevated prone platform. There's a John Deere gator to run out to paint the steel plates and hang new targets. They provide a gas grill and have burgers and pork burger patties in the freezer. Deb makes home made cookies and they have snacks to heat up in the microwave. Young's supplies spray paint, rifle rests, cleaning equipment, spotting scopes and a chronograph. There is a fridge stocked with pop and water and there's a coffee pot too.

Oh yeah, this is my home away from home. Check out their web site and look at the photos.

Youngs Long Shot Range

Whats the cost of memebership

 

[Dave Doehrman]

Young's 1st year fee is $300 and then it is $200 a year after that. If you plan to shoot all year long, it's a bargain.

 

[silentvoice71]

look into 6.5 grendel. I hear good things.
also if you have a iphone or a ipod look into the ballistic software by KA called bulletflight..........its a great program ive read about it in a few articles......

BulletFlight, Knight's Armament BulletFlight. Bulletflight 3.1.0

 

[KingWeb50]

If you plan on shooting paper or steel 243 or a 260 will be your best bet for 1000 yds

 

[slow1911s]

I'm flatter at 1000 than everything in that table with a 162 AMax in a 7WSM. And I can seat it into the lands and still fit into the factory box mag of a sub 7lb rifle. And with a 105 AMax in a 243AI, in a sub 6lb rifle.

Thats a cost I'm able to hold over my head at length.

My gunsmith built a 6.5/7WSM on a Savage action with a Sheilen barrel that shoots amazingly at 1k (he showed a photo of two shots touching at 1k, and a third just a few inches away).

 

[billt]

I'm currently shooting 3, .300 Win. Mag. rifles. A Remington 700, a Savage, and a Kimber 8400 Police Tactical. All are excellent performers and the .300 Win. Mag. is one of the best long range performers out there. I don't shoot a .338 Lapua but do shoot a .338-378 Weatherby Magnum in an Accumark. No question it is ballistically superior to the .300 in every way, but the .300 Win. Mag. is a much better balanced cartridge. It is a very forgiving cartridge to handload for, and you almost have to try to achieve an inaccurate load with it.

My Remington 700 BDL Sporter has been delivering 1 MOA performance since I first bought it new back in 1973. My newest is the Kimber 8400 Police Tactical Model, and I just finished a fresh batch of handloads that I'll be wringing out at the range in just a few days. I have high hopes for this rifle with Berger 210 Grain VLD Bullets and it's hand lapped 1 in 10" twist barrel.

My Savage 110 FCP-K has also been a very accurate rifle. The muzzle brake along with the heavy barrel brings the felt recoil level down to just above my Savage 10-FP in .308. I topped both rifles with a Bushnell 3200 Elite Tactical 5-15 X 40 MM scope with a Mil-Dot reticule. This scope rivals any of my Leupolds in brightness and clarity. Both rifles utilize Leupold Tactical Steel Rings. I like this scope so much I have one mounted on my Bushmaster BA-50 .50 BMG rifle. It's a very high quality optic for the money.

For someone looking for a nice long range weapon you can't go wrong with either of these rifles in .300 Win. Mag. Bill T.

Weatherby Accumark .338-378 Weatherby Magnum

Remington 700 BDL .300 Win. Mag.

Kimber 8400 Police Tactical .300 Win. Mag.

Savage 110 FCP-K .300 Win. Mag.

 

[cducati]

.338 is way over kill.
I love the 300WM and use it for F Class as well as tactical matches.
It's plenty flat shooting, and does not burn through barrels.
The 6.5x284 is designed to be ballistically similar, with less recoil.
It is also a great choice for 1000 yards, as is 6.5 Creedemore (you can get factory match amo now)

There are a TON of worthy calibers good to 1000.
Good ole .308 will do just fine with a proper load... the venerable 75 gr of Varget, Win Brass and 175 SMKs has won a LOT of matches. You can learn wind calling and reading better and cheaper with the .308.

Reloading is the only option for accuracy. It saves money, but you'd do it if it cost more as you can control all the variables.

I know this an old thread but could not resist.

Come to the High Power Matches at Atterburry this season and watch or shoot!
CIHPRS Home

 

[gunman41mag]

i have always been a 300 win mag man, but have been doing some reading on the laupa. would really appreciate as much input as i can get on this matter. thanks for all your help in advance!!!!

The LAUPA ammo is very EXPENSIVE & hard to find, I have 300 REMINGTON ULTRA MAG & ammo is expensive, I haven't shot my 50 BMG farther than 450 yards,but you can buy 50 BMG ball ammo for $2 a round or 750 gr. A-MAX for $4 a round. I think the 50 BMG will give you a bigger thrill

 

[cducati]

I'm right around $.85 /round with RL22, Win Brass, Win primer, and 200 GR SMK
Good to about 1700 yards with a 26" barrel.
I'm not an operator, just a hobbyist who likes to compete and shoot long range.
I don't see the need for a .338 for me

YMMV

If I lived out west with some land, not that's another story!
I'd have a bunch of long range calibers! :-)

 

[billt]

Good ole .308 will do just fine with a proper load... the venerable 75 gr of Varget, Win Brass and 175 SMKs has won a LOT of matches. You can learn wind calling and reading better and cheaper with the .308.

You can shoot the .308 at 1,000 yards. but you better not try doing it with 75 GRAINS OF VARGET! Bill T.