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  • pirate

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    England's has more things to worry about thing gun violence from a psychopath with a grenade.


    Their immigration is destroying that country.
     

    IndyDave1776

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    Yes, the strict gun laws are working. They obviously need a way to make them 'more illegaler' so this can't happen any more! :):

    (Yes, the grammar violation was intended to be just as stupid as their laws.)
     

    NYFelon

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    I am sorry for any good man's death, but these two guys should have armed themselves regardless what the Queen says.

    They were women. Only the "firearms specialist teams" are armed there.

    They call Manchester "Gangchester" across the pond.
     

    indykid

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    I refuse to believe this story because everyone knows that banning firearms leads to total blissful peace.

    How truly sad.
     

    PointFiveO

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    Yep, one shooting reported. That must mean their gun control doesn't work at all. In America armed police never die, they are invincible. If these cops had guns it would have been impossible to shoot them.
     

    NYFelon

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    Yep, one shooting reported. That must mean their gun control doesn't work at all. In America armed police never die, they are invincible. If these cops had guns it would have been impossible to shoot them.

    One man. Four shootings. One grenading. But, whatever, they're just pertinent details.
     

    PointFiveO

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    One man. Four shootings. One grenading. But, whatever, they're just pertinent details.

    Those details don't lessen the message of what I said.

    Nothing in this article points out that gun control doesn't work. I'm not a fan of getting rid of guns (hence my presence on these forums), but picking out this one bad seed as proof of the failure of the entire system is... stupid. There are plenty of real reasons to avoid the disarmament of the population.
     

    Excalibur

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    This is one of the few times where I remember reading about China arming all cops that were previously unarmed, even traffic cops
     

    NYFelon

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    Those details don't lessen the message of what I said.

    Nothing in this article points out that gun control doesn't work. I'm not a fan of getting rid of guns (hence my presence on these forums), but picking out this one bad seed as proof of the failure of the entire system is... stupid. There are plenty of real reasons to avoid the disarmament of the population.

    He's actually a perfect example that gun control has failed. In a country where even the police are not typically armed, and (I'm fairly certain handguns are entirely illegal for civilian ownership) this guy managed to get his hands one not just a handgun, but a grenade as well, just for good measure. He then proceeded to murder four individuals. This is not a sole instance, nor some rare occurrence. Determination to possess weapons illicitly, and use them to inflict violence on others is not going to be dissuaded by any law. In this way, we can say that attempts to control who can possess weapons is an utter failure. Again, it's not like this is some coelacanth-type event, laying unknown and undiscovered. Stupid reactionary laws, especially USELESS, stupid reactionary laws are no solution. No to any problem, ever. Unless they are to satisfy donors, and post political electability by being "tough on crime."

    Also, I never tire of posting this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ry-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

    If you require a source, I will dig it out from my stack, in and around the same time as this article (2008, as I recall), 1 in 26 Americans reported being the victim of a violent crime. One in 4 Britons reported the same.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    I'm in Europe now, and it's bigger news than Princess Kate's pictures. I had a pretty heat discussion last night (we're 6 hours ahead), about how stupid it gun laws in Europe are.
    (save the Swiss).
     

    daedrian

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    Those details don't lessen the message of what I said.

    Nothing in this article points out that gun control doesn't work. I'm not a fan of getting rid of guns (hence my presence on these forums), but picking out this one bad seed as proof of the failure of the entire system is... stupid. There are plenty of real reasons to avoid the disarmament of the population.

    I don't think he is throwing this out there as proof, but rather as an example. It is a very good example that their gun control doesn't work, but to be proof would need many more facts to back it up. This is one instance of a larger problem. Britain's violent crime rates are through the roof, even if only a few cops were killed with guns in the last decade.
     

    cobber

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    This is one of the few times where I remember reading about China arming all cops that were previously unarmed, even traffic cops
    Where did you read that? The only armed police I ever saw were the SRT teams in Beijing during the Olympics and the 2009 National Day celebration. The average officer driving his Volkswagen Golf didn't even appear to have a radio, let alone a gun...
     

    TopDog

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    2 unarmed police officers shot dead in Britain - Yahoo! News

    Looks like those strict gun laws are really working for them. The writer of this article is obviously anti-gun as well. It amazes me what some people think.

    Im not trying to make fun of the loss of life just the mindset.

    The English apparently think I am a policeman you must fear me because I have a silly hat on. While the criminals think what a douche. Yet the British never catch on to what the criminals are thinking. Amazing... Just like the liberals here in America.
     
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