I've heard cops tell each other, "it is the uniform, not you".
Don't assume that I look the other way. I could make plenty of assumptions about you based on your attitude about cops.
"Behaving badly" is not the same thing as blatantly illegal activity. I don't understand the "lying because there isn't evidence" aspect. I'm saying it's extremely rare because it is. There are MILLIONS of police/citizen interactions every year in the US. You want to give me some internet cases and exclaim that it's proof that it's frequent. You will need WAY more cases to prove that assertion.
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Again, "bad behavior" is WAY different than illegal activity that was referred to earlier Yes, there are a TON of lazy-untrained police in the US. Thankfully, even the vast majority of them follow the law.
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Sounds more like TV cops than reality.
Unless it's an active investigation, it's pretty easy to file a FOIA request and if the dept has no legal reason to deny it but still do, a judge can order it done.
They find wrong doing WAY more often than you think.
Cities could not care less about the LEO's record. They settle because it saves them money. It's costlier to defend righteous behavior then it is to just settle and make it go away. Only recently has Indianapolis gotten away from settle EVERY claim.
Usually the City lets them quit, it's cheaper and they don't have to defend the separation in court if they sue.
I really don't owe you an explanation. But, there are a couple folks here who have IMHO presented themselves as morally superior and better knowing with how to deal with situations police face than the actual police know. Not surprisingly. Those same folks if they were pressed to put on a uniform and badge probably wouldn't last a year before getting themselves into trouble.
Didn't read anything further after this. If you really believe that what happened to George Floyd (unfortunate as it was) was murder, you are very drunk on mainstream media koolaid. I recommend you go and watch the actual trial of Derek Chauvin, where it was testified that Floyd had multiple times the deadly level of fentanyl in his system. I recommend you go and watch the experiments done by volunteers who literally let a man kneel on their neck in the same manner as what happened to Floyd, simply to demonstrate that not only was it not deadly, but was not even a risk of harm/injury. The only way you can possibly think that Chauvin received a just verdict is to be either woefully ignorant of the facts, or firmly entrenched in anti-police bias.
Assuming that the account given by the officers was correct: They were trying to take him into custody. He hadn't "just resisted" them, he was still actively resisting, and had clearly proven that the moment he regained ability, he was more that willing to be a violent threat.
I watched every second* of the Chauvin trial. I heard the testimony of an Cardiologist with a very impressive resume give good evidence of why he didn't die from fentanyl. There was clear video from multiple angles. People at the scene could tell he was dying. One of the other officers said they needed to roll him over. They violated their own policy. He was not fighting back. (Also if he was so nearly dead from fentanyl why did they need to kneel on his neck? surely he couldn't hurt anyone, handcuffed and almost dead). He was murdered. The crowd saw it. I saw it. The Drs. testifying saw it. The jury saw it. Period. Murder. There is no media conspiracy.
Thank you for the reply. I'm using bad behavior here as blanket euphemism for malfeasance, negligence, criminality etc.
"Scores of links"... out of millions of LEO interactions. You do realize that even if there are "scores" of links to bad behavior that in the grand scheme of things, it's statistically insignificant, right? And holding up the George Floyd incident? Do you think that the nationwide (and even international) destruction and damage to race relations that that spawned was worth it for a drug addled addict's accidental death (and yes, it was accidental at worst)? If so, then that explains where you're coming from.
Kneeling on his neck was an unnecessary and an unwise move, but it was not what killed George Floyd. I'll take the evidence a volunteer who actually let someone kneel on their neck and was perfectly unharmed, vs a cherry picked cardiologist, no matter how long their resume is, until they volunteer to have the same level of fentanyl in their system and see how they fare.
C'mon man! There were cellphone videos to be taken and those aren't gonna get posted to the internet themselves! Priorities!
I've never been put in the position to have to arrest a cop.
