55 grain and 1:7 twist and stripper clips

[lovemachine]

Is 55 grain fine for a 1:7 twist? What kind of differences would you notice compared to 62+ grain at less than 100 yards?

Stripper clips. What are they used for? I'm used to buying them without, but I'm about to purchase a bulk order of 5.56, and they are in stripper clips.
Stripper clips is new to me...

 

[Disposable Heart]

55 is fine for 1:7. Heck, have yet to see a 45 or 40 grainer pop before hitting the target (though some folks will proclaim to have seen it).

Remember, it's the bullet quality that determines the accuracy when you spin it up quick. Cheaply made or unevenly made bullets (ie M855 or cheapo Montana Golds) when fired, the higher rate excacerbates the uneven nature of their construction, causing some larger than desired groups (albeit cheaper ammo). You fire, say, a Sierra 55gr Matchking, you aren't going to notice much diff twixt 1in9 or 1in7.

 

[Cerberus]

55s are finein a 1:7. Those stripper clips are great to load mags quickly, but you will need the spoon or a guide.

 

[remauto1187]

Checkout this for a demo of the spoon and stripper clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egnnlfzgPi0

 

[gregkl]

Checkout this for a demo of the spoon and stripper clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egnnlfzgPi0

10:59 to demo stripper clips? Edit!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lovemachine]

Where do you get a spoon or guide?

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Where do you get a spoon or guide?

Sometimes you get them with the ammo. You can also find them at army surplus stores.

Do the stripper clips / spoons work with any mags besides ar15 mags?

 

[Cerberus]

Sometimes you get them with the ammo. You can also find them at army surplus stores.

Do the stripper clips / spoons work with any mags besides ar15 mags?

The clips and spoon should work with any NATO standard mag, but don't quote me on this.

 

[redwingshooter]

The spoons and clips will also work on PMAGs but I'm not sure about other polymer mags.

 

[OneBadV8]

Lovemachine... Check out the Beta Mag Loaders

 

[Theox]

should you always match grain to twist? is there some sort of spreadsheet on this out there somewhere?

 

[j706]

A quality 1/7 barrel will shoot just about any weight quality ammunition just fine.

 

[Fordtough25]

1:7 shoots 55 grain fine and striper clips are ok, I usally just load my ar mags one round at a time.

 

[SmileDocHill]

The 223/5.56 stripper clips also work for bulk storage of 9mm handgun rounds. It really organizes an ammo can full of 9mm nicely.
It wouldn't work with the AR15 platform but I hear from the guys that fought in VN that they loaded their M14's using stripper clips. Rather than carrying around a bunch of heavy mags they would keep the empty mag in the rifle after the last round held the bolt open open (like a Garand). They would then push all the rounds off the stripper clip directly into the mag similar to jamming a clip into a Garand.

That might work with 223 and a Mini 14 but I don't know.

 

[Slow Hand]

Sometimes you get them with the ammo. You can also find them at army surplus stores.

Do the stripper clips / spoons work with any mags besides ar15 mags?

You can also get a spoon to fit Mini-14 mags. I've seen them at cheaper than dirt. They also sell them for M-16 mags.

 

[jblomenberg16]

should you always match grain to twist? is there some sort of spreadsheet on this out there somewhere?

The answer is yes...and yes. There are some good reads out on the internet about stability. It isn't all about weight, but rather also about length. It just so happens that the two are linked pretty closely since the longer the bullet the more it typically weighs.

Here is a good read that might help you.

What bullet weight can I shoot in my <1/9, 1/8> rifle?

Generally you need a faster twist for longer bullets (i.e. the 1:7). Typically AR's in the 1:7 through 1:9 rate will work for just about any normal commercial ammo a person is going to want to shoot through them.

 

[Theox]

The answer is yes...and yes. There are some good reads out on the internet about stability. It isn't all about weight, but rather also about length. It just so happens that the two are linked pretty closely since the longer the bullet the more it typically weighs.

Here is a good read that might help you.

What bullet weight can I shoot in my <1/9, 1/8> rifle?

Generally you need a faster twist for longer bullets (i.e. the 1:7). Typically AR's in the 1:7 through 1:9 rate will work for just about any normal commercial ammo a person is going to want to shoot through them.

Damn... I had no idea there was so much to it... Maybe I need to do a bit more research on the subject. Maybe that's why my AR isn't shooting as accurately as I'd like it to. Thanks for the link!