IndianaResident
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- Sep 3, 2010
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https://www.indianagunowners.com/forums/long_guns/132789-problem_solvers_870_wingmaster.html
Same gun, same problem, still unsolved. I have cleaned it so that doesn't seem to be the problem. I don't know what bent would look like.
Thanks for the input though UncleMike, nickl16, and VUPDblue.
Wingmaster 870TC. The problem is simply that shells won't feed into the magazine. One will go in, then it simply stops when the rim hits the mouth of the mag tube. For the sake of experimentation we loaded two shells in from the front of the mag tube, then replaced spring and cap...worked like a charm. For further experiment I loaded shells in backwards...also works fine.
Bottom line is it seems to defy physics, as the same part in the same circumstances will fit if it leads into the the tube, or will exit it, but will not enter it normally.
Snap caps feed fine, both my fly-by-night ones and my friend's more expensive variant, but 3 brands of actual shells refuse to load.
That is also why I am feeding real shells, if anyone wants to attack that, the bolt and barrel are across the room, so....
Lastly....the gun's orange. I know. Its not really, but the flash makes it look not just oxidized, but outright painted orange. I promise its not, its just old and not pretty. I'll grayscale the pictures if anyone's too offended....I was.
As you can see, that's the empty magazine tube, and a view of each shell stop, then one of the same views but with a shell "stuck" in it, refusing to go further in to load more rounds.
The last two are of the shell going in upside down, sliding the rim under the shell stop top ends, then the last of it falling down the tube as it should facing forwards.
...and yes, those are genuine Altamas. Old school, I know.
Help, anyone?
Same gun, same problem, still unsolved. I have cleaned it so that doesn't seem to be the problem. I don't know what bent would look like.
Thanks for the input though UncleMike, nickl16, and VUPDblue.
Wingmaster 870TC. The problem is simply that shells won't feed into the magazine. One will go in, then it simply stops when the rim hits the mouth of the mag tube. For the sake of experimentation we loaded two shells in from the front of the mag tube, then replaced spring and cap...worked like a charm. For further experiment I loaded shells in backwards...also works fine.
Bottom line is it seems to defy physics, as the same part in the same circumstances will fit if it leads into the the tube, or will exit it, but will not enter it normally.
Snap caps feed fine, both my fly-by-night ones and my friend's more expensive variant, but 3 brands of actual shells refuse to load.
That is also why I am feeding real shells, if anyone wants to attack that, the bolt and barrel are across the room, so....
Lastly....the gun's orange. I know. Its not really, but the flash makes it look not just oxidized, but outright painted orange. I promise its not, its just old and not pretty. I'll grayscale the pictures if anyone's too offended....I was.
As you can see, that's the empty magazine tube, and a view of each shell stop, then one of the same views but with a shell "stuck" in it, refusing to go further in to load more rounds.
The last two are of the shell going in upside down, sliding the rim under the shell stop top ends, then the last of it falling down the tube as it should facing forwards.
...and yes, those are genuine Altamas. Old school, I know.
Help, anyone?
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That poor Wingmaster literally looks as though it were run over by a truck. I don't think an out of battery detonation would deform the receiver that bad. I'm serious when I say it looks like it was run over. If not by a vehicle, it was definitely crushed somehow.
