Almost got made by my Dr.

[Spikedog]

I had to go to my doc for a checkup yesterday and was wearing my ACU INGO hat. I already knew that docs may ask about guns, but hadn't been asked by mine yet. So, he comes in and comments about the hat asking were it's from. I tell him Indiana Gun Owners, and he asks "do you own a gun?" I say no. I'm telling the truth because "a" is singular and I own alot more than one!! I told him I got the hat because I like the camo pattern. Maybe he believed me or not, but I didn't see him quickly typing on his PC after I answered.

 

[Darral27]

The dr that I have had for years knows I carry, he works as part of the st Vincent group so of course there is a no gun sign on the building. Last appt he told me he is moving out of state so my next appt will be with a new dr. Gonna have to keep my fingers for another good one.

 

[KLB]

Why not just tell the truth in that situation? I've had doctors that would talk guns with me.

 

[tmfinney]

If I had a doctor ask me about my guns, I'd flat out tell him for the money that I'm paying for this visit to worry what's going on with the inside of my body and not what I'm carrying on the outside.

 

[CathyInBlue]

I went to a brand new doc yesterday. Was worried about the guns question. Took the "Physician or Educator Qualification and Liability" pamphlet with me, all properly printed out and neatly tri-folded. The questions never came, so it stayed in my bag. I still dropped a couple of blatantly obvious gun-related metaphors to see what his reaction might be, but never got him to bite.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Why on earth do you guys fear answering that question? I talk guns with every patient who is wearing something from the industry or talks about having land. To think the government is not tracking background checks is laughable. They watch these forums and I'm sure catalogue everything.

this topic comes up all the time and I just don't get it. Bear in mind, if you are prescribed a controlled substance and you have lied to your prescriber it could be a felony. Unlikely to ever happen from the gun issue, but it's in the realm of possibility.

how can you help the cause of gun ownership if you keep denying you even own one

 

[KLB]

Why on earth do you guys fear answering that question? I talk guns with every patient who is wearing something from the industry or talks about having land. To think the government is not tracking background checks is laughable. They watch these forums and I'm sure catalogue everything.

this topic comes up all the time and I just don't get it. Bear in mind, if you are prescribed a controlled substance and you have lied to your prescriber it could be a felony. Unlikely to ever happen from the gun issue, but it's in the realm of possibility.

how can you help the cause of gun ownership if you keep denying you even own one

I definitely do not understand it. I guess I have a different relationship with my doctor than many here do. If I felt I could not honestly let my Dr know I owned guns, I would find a new Dr.

 

[88GT]

Why on earth do you guys fear answering that question? I talk guns with every patient who is wearing something from the industry or talks about having land. To think the government is not tracking background checks is laughable. They watch these forums and I'm sure catalogue everything.

this topic comes up all the time and I just don't get it. Bear in mind, if you are prescribed a controlled substance and you have lied to your prescriber it could be a felony. Unlikely to ever happen from the gun issue, but it's in the realm of possibility.

how can you help the cause of gun ownership if you keep denying you even own one

Because with government control of health care now, and don't tell me it's not, it's one more avenue for .gov to stick its nose where it doesn't belong. If you mention to your doc that you are feeling depressed and he knows you have firearms, now you have to risk being SWATed for your own good. And some people have never purchased a firearm through an FFL. They aren't on any lists.

I think it's fairly obvious why doctors having that information is hazardous to one's health.

 

[hoosierdoc]

So is it OK if the doctor lies to the patient? I just want to make sure I understand the new doctor-patient.

 

[danmdevries]

So is it OK if the doctor lies to the patient?

Lolz.

Of course not silly.

 

[rockhopper46038]

I suppose if I were to ask my doctor if he owned a gun, it would be reasonable that he might lie to me.

 

[88GT]

About whether he has firearms, yes. Tell me how that's even relevant? Tell me how ownership of firearms has anything to do with a visit to a health care professional?

 

[Benny]

About whether he has firearms, yes. Tell me how that's even relevant? Tell me how ownership of firearms has anything to do with a visit to a health care professional?

That'll be a tough one to answer.

 

[Mr. Habib]

My doctors are not qualified or licensed to counsel me on the use or storage of firearms, therefore, my ownership of firearms is not relevant to the purpose of my visit. Much like informing an LEO that I'm armed during a routine traffic stop, I will not provide information that COULD be used to my detriment.

 

[hoosierdoc]

About whether he has firearms, yes. Tell me how that's even relevant? Tell me how ownership of firearms has anything to do with a visit to a health care professional?

I am not debating whether the question is appropriate or relevant, I'm debating whether lying is appropriate. There are ways to answer without lying that might actually make them think the question is not appropriate. We support handing cards that say no guns no business, but will just lie to the doctor and Move on?

 

[GregD]

First why not leave your gun related clothes at home, then you can answer any way you want, truth or not. Very simple.
Why make should a big deal out of one question.

 

[88GT]

I am not debating whether the question is appropriate or relevant, I'm debating whether lying is appropriate. There are ways to answer without lying that might actually make them think the question is not appropriate. We support handing cards that say no guns no business, but will just lie to the doctor and Move on?

Yes, lying is appropriate if the individual wishes to protect himself from the risks of a doc complicit in tyranny.

Businesses don't have the authority to send LE to my house. I know you see the difference.

 

[GregD]

And you might be surprised by your doctor. I've been with mine for over 15 years. He likes guns and owners them. We have been to the range many times.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Yes, lying is appropriate if the individual wishes to protect himself from the risks of a doc complicit in tyranny.

Businesses don't have the authority to send LE to my house. I know you see the difference.

And what's wrong with: "Sir, that is not relevant to my care today and I'm not going to answer that."?

if I suspect a patient is lying to me that really hurts my ability to help them. It calls everything they say into question. I'd respect them if they say "not relevant" and move on. Lies just cause problems.

 

[Crbn79]

And what's wrong with: "Sir, that is not relevant to my care today and I'm not going to answer that."?

if I suspect a patient is lying to me that really hurts my ability to help them. It calls everything they say into question. I'd respect them if they say "not relevant" and move on. Lies just cause problems.

That's what I told my Dr. I talk to him about hunting and such all the time, but once it's patient-dr conversation I simply say "defer" he says "we will mark no" and we go on to the next question. I appreciate that he keeps personal & professional relationships separate.