An OC Guide to Protecting Your Rights: What to do when LEO stops you

[Jzim]

Everytime I've been pulled I've while carrying officer only asked I kept my hands on the steering wheel since there was a firearm in the car. Seems like a reasonable request...

 

[kimbercollector]

Well put...

 

[cmepp18]

Since LEO’s can lie to you, if you ask them if you are being detained and they say yes, can you assume they are lying and simply leave. (That is probably a terrible idea, but…).
I hate this whole thing about LEO’s being able to lie to people. I thought they were supposed to serve and protect. How does lying to people serve that purpose? It just doesn’t sit well with me. OK, I’m stepping down off my soapbox now.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Since LEO’s can lie to you, if you ask them if you are being detained and they say yes, can you assume they are lying and simply leave. (That is probably a terrible idea, but…).
I hate this whole thing about LEO’s being able to lie to people. I thought they were supposed to serve and protect. How does lying to people serve that purpose? It just doesn’t sit well with me. OK, I’m stepping down off my soapbox now.

I hate being lied to by non-LEOs. But if everyone was honest I would probably (gladly) be out of a job.

 

[the1kidd03]

I hate being lied to by non-LEOs. But if everyone was honest I would probably (gladly) be out of a job.

So, you're proposing other's lack of integrity is somehow justification for those who took on a position of authority and representing higher ethical standards to..NOT uphold those expectations?!?

 

[henktermaat]

I hate being lied to by non-LEOs. But if everyone was honest I would probably (gladly) be out of a job.

But you don't hate being lied to by LEOs?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

So, you're proposing other's lack of integrity is somehow justification for those who took on a position of authority and representing higher ethical standards to..NOT uphold those expectations?!?

No, not justifying anything. Just stating an opinion in response to the one posted.

But you don't hate being lied to by LEOs?

Actually I do hate being lied to by other LEOs. But it doesn't happen very often (to me).

 

[cmepp18]

So, you're proposing other's lack of integrity is somehow justification for those who took on a position of authority and representing higher ethical standards to..NOT uphold those expectations?!?

I think you are dead-on the1kidd03. How is it at all a good idea for those who are supposed to be held to a higher ethical standard allowed to lie to the sheep? Does the Air Force think it is a good idea for their officers to lie to the enlisted ranks. No, they actually ARE held to a higher standard and they take it seriously.

Even if the law allowed it I wouldn't lie to a LEO...common courtesy. I would hope to receive that same courtesy in return. Is that too much to ask?

 

[ditto]

This thread is informative, empowering and has put my mind much more at ease. Big thanks to the OP and all others who have contributed. This thread is worth its weight in gold.

 

[Eskion]

Really good post. A lot of good information in here and I completely agree with never waive a right. When taking a criminal law and procedure course in college, my instructor (who is a lawyer and carries a gun) said the exact same thing.

 

[kelsie117]

very informative, thank you I was just wondering about some of these points myself.

 

[hoosiersasquatch]

Great posting, very good info, and I appreciate the link to the trifold. I am shocked that Leos are allowed to lie to entrap and entice. That is very good info to know. I have always thought I have nothing to hide so no harm in being open and transparent. this has given me a lot to think about

 

[lonegun3]

Just found this post. Thanks for the info.

 

[jedi]

You are welcome lonegun3.
BTW 2

 

[dmg45]

Wow, that was very informative, thank you!

 

[Lep36]

Great post! Great info! Have to stop my head from spinning now...
Thanks.

 

[jedi]

Great post! Great info! Have to stop my head from spinning now...
Thanks.

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[bds792]

Great info! Thanks so much!!

 

[threedhuntr]

Just now found this post. Thank you very much Jedi.

 

[IndyGunner]

thanks!