anyone building the 445 Super Mag,aka 444 Schafer?

[tallend]

I recently acquired a Contender barrel "re-chambered"in 444Schafer/44 Super mag/445 Super Mag

Original cases were built from 30-40 Krag,then 444 Marlin brass-----lots of work,since Starline now offers brass(445 Super Mag)

thoughts---ideas????????

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[Broom_jm]

Is it a pistol-length barrel, 14" or so?

Be advised that it's a real handful...kills on one end, maims on the other!

 

[parson]

Quite a few guys have reamed their 44 mag Handi rifles to 445. Quite a bit of info on Graybeard. Here's a link to one thread.

445 SM Data

 

[ghuns]

A buddy of mine had a Dan Wesson .445. He practically gave the thing away. Always wished I'd bought it from him but the thought of making brass for it never appealed to me.

 

[tallend]

Thanks to all for your information-----------if I find the 445 to be a"keeper"(fun to shoot),I may send it to E.A. Brown for a "JP Howitzer"brake.

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[tallend]

P.S. the barrel is a 14" Contender >re-chambered

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[ghuns]

(fun to shoot)

I remember it being very much so.

I have never really understood why it wasn't more popular. What made .45LC based cartridges, like the Casull and .460 Smith take off and the .44 Mag based stuff just died.

 

[tallend]

Guys---When I said "acquired",I meant bought,I did not have it in hand,so,--I got a lot of information,for a "second" ctg.that Mr Schafer designed-------I now have the barrel,"in hand"--------The original 444 Schafer uses a full length 444 Marlin case-----with the barrel(re-stamped 444Schafer) I got a set of 444 Marlin dies,loaded 444 Marlin brass,and a box of 444 Marlin Brass-----and 3 pages of handwritten loading instructions,written by Mr.Lewis P. Schafer....
He also claims the 44 Schafer Ultramag,the 360 Schafer mag,and the 30 Schafer Mag.

Sorry to have started the wrong information

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[Broom_jm]

Well, that is an ENTIRELY different 'cat!

How is the 444 Marlin changed to make the Schafer variant?

 

[tallend]

(How is the 444 Marlin changed to make the Schafer variant?)

At this time--I can "see" no difference----- there is a warning(in his notes)"These loads might be dangerous in your Marlin 444 rifle"

Only a few of his listed loads compare to any of my loading manuals---(for the 444 Marlin)----------most of his loads have listed faster burning powder--I guess for the shorter(14") barrel.

His loads,and a factory 444 Marlin "seem" to chamber the same



The loaded ammo has a "Three K' logo,and a "Three K Industries Inc." address --Boise Idaho

I am going to send a note to the address to see if there is anymore information available..

Information will be posted as recieved

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[tallend]

P.S,
That logo is on the ammo BOX

I need another cup of coffee

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[gemihur]

no substitutions

14" 444 Marlin SSK Bbl custom wood by me