AR national match float tube...

[natdscott]

Whatever buddy. Tell yourself what you need to to feel better...

We'll make a Service Rifle shooter out of you yet.

 

[STAGE 2]

Whatever buddy. Tell yourself what you need to to feel better...

We'll make a Service Rifle shooter out of you yet.

I don’t need a 10 second car...
I don’t plan on golfing that much...
I wont be doing any rock crawling...
I shouldn’t ever have to tow a boat...


Same song next verse

 

[GIJEW]

Was the RRA bolt on or did you have to modify the gas tube?

I bought a complete NM rifle from RRA

 

[STAGE 2]

I bought a complete NM rifle from RRA

What kind of groups are you getting and with what ammo?

 

[musketjon]

I want to install a CLE NM Float tube on my 20" Windham A4 rifle. I plan to use the existing hand guards. How difficult is it to remove the heat shields (they appear to be hot glued in place)? Also, can someone post a photo, or at least tell me how much material needs to be removed, and where, to make the guards fit? Or, should I just pony-up and get the kit that includes the hand guards? I'm on a fixed income so trying to do it as cheaply as possible plus, I don't want a set of hand guards laying around collecting dust, and there are no plans for any additional AR rifles.
Thanks for your inputs.
Jon

 

[55fairlane]

I want to install a CLE NM Float tube on my 20" Windham A4 rifle. I plan to use the existing hand guards. How difficult is it to remove the heat shields (they appear to be hot glued in place)? Also, can someone post a photo, or at least tell me how much material needs to be removed, and where, to make the guards fit? Or, should I just pony-up and get the kit that includes the hand guards? I'm on a fixed income so trying to do it as cheaply as possible plus, I don't want a set of hand guards laying around collecting dust, and there are no plans for any additional AR rifles.
Thanks for your inputs.
Jon

Pony up, buy the complete kit, all the parts match, everything works together

 

[Hop]

I want to install a CLE NM Float tube on my 20" Windham A4 rifle. I plan to use the existing hand guards. How difficult is it to remove the heat shields (they appear to be hot glued in place)? Also, can someone post a photo, or at least tell me how much material needs to be removed, and where, to make the guards fit? Or, should I just pony-up and get the kit that includes the hand guards? I'm on a fixed income so trying to do it as cheaply as possible plus, I don't want a set of hand guards laying around collecting dust, and there are no plans for any additional AR rifles.
Thanks for your inputs.
Jon

I don't think hot glue would withstand the high barrel temps. The existing hand guards shouldn't be that hard to modify. I bought the CLE ones because I didn't want to modify my OEM Colt parts.

The A2 style hand guards are not very common now & should be relativly cheap to replace if you muck them up. Go for it.

 

[BigMoose]

Yeah, A2s with float tubes can be shot pretty okay on your feet. If you are bithered, add some weight in the back...but if you're good enough fir it to matter a lot, then you're probably not gonna want a Government profile.

There is a weight made to the shape of the buttstock compartment.

Lead Butt Weight for National Match Service Rifle

Lead Butt Weight for National Match Service Rifle This lead butt weight is made from pre-formed lead and increases the rear weight of your National Match Rifle. This can help balance a rifle with a…

compasslake.com

 

[natdscott]

There is a weight made to the shape of the buttstock compartment.

Lead Butt Weight for National Match Service Rifle

Lead Butt Weight for National Match Service Rifle This lead butt weight is made from pre-formed lead and increases the rear weight of your National Match Rifle. This can help balance a rifle with a…

compasslake.com

Just remember:

---Cut only from the FRONT of the weight.

---Drills are more precise than saws.

---Realize they sold you at least 1/3 more lead than you probably want.

---Heavier is only better if you work at building the core strength and lumbar flexibility to get the 15 lb rifle over your instep. If you can't, or don't, then heavy weight just makes a bad problem worse.

---Trim/file the rear end until the door JUST clicks shut, pressing the taper forward into your stock;...

...and if you go a shade too far, some thin inner-tube placed on the rear of the weight will tighten it back up.

 

[2tonic]

I bought a RRA in 2010, with a 20" National Match stainless barrel and the FF tube with the Hogue overmoldimg. No problems with any part of the rifle yet.

With 75gr TAP it'll hold a 6" group at 600 yards.
With 77gr IMI it'll halve that to 3".
On a calm day.
Doping wind seems quite different between these two rounds.
Both rounds will produce cloverleaf groups at 100 yards.
This is thru an AAC M-2000 suppressor, and I suspect barrel harmonics are a large portion of the accuracy disparity at longer ranges.

 

[Leo]

I have had a couple of Compass Lake rifles, and the float tubes work great.

 

[musketjon]

Thanks all for your input.

Jon

 

[jrh84]

I dont have any experience with the CLE float tube, but enough good service rifle shooters use them that if there were an issue, it would be well known by now.

I have 2 of the Rock River tubes. I run my sling tight enough that I'm bruised up pretty good after a 60 round midrange match, even through a t-shirt, sweatshirt, and padded Creedmoor coat....and not from the .223's brutal recoil I've never had any issues with the Rock River tube in 6 years of service rifle shooting.

Pick whatever one you like, is cheaper, in stock, etc, and go for it. If I had to pick one today, it'd be a CLE, but only for the supporting small company reasons @natdscott mentioned.