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Article: "Why the 'Citizen Militia' Theory Is the Worst Pro-Gun Argument Ever"
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singlestacksig
Master
um.. they seem to be fighting a pretty good war in Syria right now...
and the rebels started with just small arms..
and the rebels started with just small arms..
Concerned Citizen
Sharpshooter
He also states in the article that the militia would not stand a chance against our modern military. What he fails to understand is, our military has sworn an oath not to follow any "unlawful orders". Attacking our citizens would fall into that. Our military members follow orders, but they are are just like us, and have most of the same views we have on the subject.
Depends, are your opinions anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment, anti-freedom? If so, then your opinions probably won't be welcome. If not, then come on man, have an opinion. Add some "Quality Posts"! It only takes 50!
Depends, are your opinions anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment, anti-freedom? If so, then your opinions probably won't be welcome. If not, then come on man, have an opinion. Add some "Quality Posts"! It only takes 50!
Concerned Citizen
Sharpshooter
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Necessity is the mother of invention, and this is not limited to fashioning gadgets. Don't ever forget that.
Why do all these writers assume the following?
1. Colonial militiamen were disciplined.
2. Our standing military is invincable.
3. Our government is anything other than inept.
4. Our soldiers would willingly take part in disarmament.
5. That gunowners are foaming at the mouth to unleash a bloodbath.
1. Colonial militiamen were disciplined.
2. Our standing military is invincable.
3. Our government is anything other than inept.
4. Our soldiers would willingly take part in disarmament.
5. That gunowners are foaming at the mouth to unleash a bloodbath.
Franken Suomi.
I do slightly wish our side would stop pointing out that the second amendment is the last resort against OUR government. Of course it is. We know that. The founders knew that.
But everyone on the left just 'knows' our government would never turn. We've been brainwashed since grade school that America is a magic, perfect land where that could never happen.
I think we should focus more on the argument for the citizens being armed to fight off a foreign enemy. We were attacked just a decade ago. The threat is always still there. We should stress the importance of an armed citizenry being more likely to DEFEND our government and our country since it is, in my opinion, even more likely.
But everyone on the left just 'knows' our government would never turn. We've been brainwashed since grade school that America is a magic, perfect land where that could never happen.
I think we should focus more on the argument for the citizens being armed to fight off a foreign enemy. We were attacked just a decade ago. The threat is always still there. We should stress the importance of an armed citizenry being more likely to DEFEND our government and our country since it is, in my opinion, even more likely.
That is what really floors me. A lot of people live in this Utopian world where our government would never do them any harm. It has been so incremental that they don't even notice how deep the .gov is in our pockets and our lives. Give this economy and debt situation a few years to start causing people some serious grief and they may start waking up a little.
hookedonjeep
Expert
RED DAWN! 
There is the perfect argument for all Americans being armed to the teeth..... and the best part is it came from the libtards in HOLLYWOOD!
There is the perfect argument for all Americans being armed to the teeth..... and the best part is it came from the libtards in HOLLYWOOD!
With a little help from France.
Think this time around Canada would lend a hand maybe?
To All,
The "Magick of America" is not in who we are or where we are, but rather in the massive set of checks and balances on ALL levels our founding fathers put into place.
Within the Federal government we have three (3) branches balancing each other out.
Within our nation we have Federal government and State governments balancing each other out.
Within the Constitution we have a Federal method of changing the Constitution AND a State method of changing the Constitution.
Within the two (2) houses of the Legislature we have one (1) House of Representatives that is extremely reactive to popular demand and one (1) Senate that is extremely slow to react to popular demand.
As a lasting balance of power we have "We, the People..." who may affect change through internal methods (voting, ballot initiatives, lobbying, etc) and external methods (the fear of physical resistance.)
Often times it should be the fear alone that impedes power grabs by anyone at any level of power. Fear of impeachment. Fear of lawsuits. Fear of being elected out of office. Fear of violence.
In this context it isn't the action that is important but rather fear of the action, as the fear itself will limit (in theory) illegal and unconstitutional activity.
This is why fear is a good thing. As an analogy investors should always be a little afraid of loosing their money, as this fear causes them to think carefully about where they invest. However, when the government begins a policy of bailouts the investors fear is removed and in so doing can cause an otherwise cautious investor to make unwise investment decisions. As companies begin to absorb money from investors that are no longer afraid the companies themselves begin to behave with reckless abandon as they are unafraid of loss - they have become too big to fail.
A people completely unafraid of the law and enforcement thereof can lead to anarchy. A government completely unafraid of the governed can lead to tyranny.
That was our founding fathers greatest blessing. To instill in everyone a little bit of fear so as to avoid tipping over a great nation.
Regards,
Doug
The "Magick of America" is not in who we are or where we are, but rather in the massive set of checks and balances on ALL levels our founding fathers put into place.
Within the Federal government we have three (3) branches balancing each other out.
Within our nation we have Federal government and State governments balancing each other out.
Within the Constitution we have a Federal method of changing the Constitution AND a State method of changing the Constitution.
Within the two (2) houses of the Legislature we have one (1) House of Representatives that is extremely reactive to popular demand and one (1) Senate that is extremely slow to react to popular demand.
As a lasting balance of power we have "We, the People..." who may affect change through internal methods (voting, ballot initiatives, lobbying, etc) and external methods (the fear of physical resistance.)
Often times it should be the fear alone that impedes power grabs by anyone at any level of power. Fear of impeachment. Fear of lawsuits. Fear of being elected out of office. Fear of violence.
In this context it isn't the action that is important but rather fear of the action, as the fear itself will limit (in theory) illegal and unconstitutional activity.
This is why fear is a good thing. As an analogy investors should always be a little afraid of loosing their money, as this fear causes them to think carefully about where they invest. However, when the government begins a policy of bailouts the investors fear is removed and in so doing can cause an otherwise cautious investor to make unwise investment decisions. As companies begin to absorb money from investors that are no longer afraid the companies themselves begin to behave with reckless abandon as they are unafraid of loss - they have become too big to fail.
A people completely unafraid of the law and enforcement thereof can lead to anarchy. A government completely unafraid of the governed can lead to tyranny.
That was our founding fathers greatest blessing. To instill in everyone a little bit of fear so as to avoid tipping over a great nation.
Regards,
Doug
Secession isn't an option for me. we are the ones who want to uphold the constitution of the usa, if anything, the left should leave, as they are the ones who do not believe in the our founding principals. we are the real americans and I wouldn't have it any other way!
