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    Master
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    I will answer these:

    1) Only 38 states send records to NICS currently. All states should be required to do so.

    That's some bad juju right there.^^^

    ddenny5, where did you find that info?
    (not doubting you, just for a reference point when my wife asks...and she will.)
     

    Tombs

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    1.) So she wants more extensive background checks. You need to ask her if she believes that a minor mental health problem, such as aspergers syndrome, or other disabilities that do not increase your risk to society should automatically forfeit your rights in this country. That's a dangerous line of reasoning, as she's advocating a second class of citizen just because someone needs help. We already have systems in place to prevent the dangerously mentally ill from buying a firearm, it's already part of the NICS check, but as time has proven, the FBI doesn't do its job. Due process is a basic requirement before removing someone's rights, without due process rights will become irrelevant in short order for everyone. In new jersey, seeing a marriage counselor is grounds to have your firearms rights revoked.

    2.) Ah yes, the "do something" argument. What if this action increased the rate of mass shootings, or created a greater risk to public safety, then would "doing something" be a good idea? If you don't care about whether the actions help or hurt the situation, how about that we just make a memorial as a gesture of doing something, as that's more meaningful than adding another page of legislation to the hundreds of thousands of gun laws we already have.

    I recommend posting this to them.

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    https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/c...m-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/

    Because if the US is safer than most other developed countries in regards to mass shootings, why are we even having a debate? It's clear that when a mass shooting happens, it can always be traced to a failure of community and law enforcement.
     

    Falschirmjaeger

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    The "do something" crowd isn't about actually solving a violence problem. It's all about disgusting political opportunism--that is, using the horrific occasion of dead children to ram through their antigun agenda. "Do something" = ban guns.

    They hate all of us. Never forget it.
     
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