Biden to run again in 2024

[jamil]

God does not send perfect men, he sends men perfect for the job…

Wait. You’re saying God sent Trump? Isn’t that presumptuous?

 

[jamil]

Perfect for the job…

He is not a perfect man….

How many chances does it take for someone perfect for the job to finish it?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

How many chances does it take for someone perfect for the job to finish it?

I don't know. How much more could he have accomplished without the Democrats nipping at his heels the whole freaking time?

 

[DadSmith]

Adultery is stepping out on you wife

Fornication is sleeping with a woman you are not married to

It's adultery if that women is married.
In fact being married to a person who was divorced, with a living ex spouse is considered adultery the state of. There is a state of which means continued living in, and the act of which is a one time act.

 

[jamil]

So, it sounds like by your standards, Pence is a better conservative than Trump. To me, he's only more conservative in his personal behavior. When it comes to issues I care about more he is a country club republican and a war-mongering neocon

I kinda don't even give a flying **** about conservative. At this point I just want the GOP nominee to be able to win, and at least stop the bleeding, and not **** anything up. I'd even settle for a porn star ****er if I knew he could accomplish that much.

Another fact that gets short shrift is in stormy's own account, she didn't want to sleep with Trump but somehow 'ended up in his room anyway'. It's kind of hard to believe that a very sexually experienced 'performer' couldn't control herself or the situation. I think it more likely she was hired to bang Trump if she could, did her job, took the payoff and only thought better of the deal when she saw she could make additional bank as a Trump candidacy assassin

As long as we're speculating, I think a more plausible reason Stormy would say that would be more like she doesn't want to admit she was whoring when she hooked up with Trump. I think that's the simpler explanation that does not require assumptions that there was a third party involved.

That doesn't excuse Trump taking the bait, but she's not some innocent party who Trump forced himself on. She is a blackmailer and a gold digger

You forgot whore. But, again you have to make an assumption that she lured him when it could be just as likely that he lured her with whatever might be at the disposal of someone with Trump money.

I'll take a demonstrably America First flawed man over a spineless, go-along-to-get- along, no amount of American involvement is too much for Ukraine person who happens to have his personal life in less disarray

Hands down Trump is a better president than Mike "I don't care about you" Pence would be.

 

[jamil]

I don't know. How much more could he have accomplished without the Democrats nipping at his heels the whole freaking time?

That's a fair point. But that's not the standard that was asserted. We're talking about perfection. If words mean stuff then we have to stick with the meaning of what was said. If Trump were perfect for the job, then he has the ability of working through all obstacles. One might reasonably believe he is the best for the job, but "perfect" is hyperbolic. That's all I'm saying.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

That's a fair point. But that's not the standard that was asserted. We're talking about perfection. If words mean stuff then we have to stick with the meaning of what was said. If Trump were perfect for the job, then he has the ability of working through all obstacles. One might reasonably believe he is the best for the job, but "perfect" is hyperbolic. That's all I'm saying.

Perfect is the enemy of "good enough". In this case, "good enough" would be miles ahead of what the clowns in this administration have done.

 

[jamil]

It's adultery if that women is married.
In fact being married to a person who was divorced, with a living ex spouse is considered adultery the state of. There is a state of which means continued living in, and the act of which is a one time act.

I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying here.

Are you saying that a person who was married, remarries while the former spouse is still living, is living in adultery in some jurisdictions? Do you mean "state" more as in "state of being". So explaining the latter in a different way, one would be living in a state of adultery in the divorced example in on sense. As opposed to being in an adulterous state while having a one-time fling. Is that what you're saying?

 

[manifest destiny]

I don't know. How much more could he have accomplished without the Democrats [and the republicans and rinos and courts and cabinet secretaries and media and his VP....] nipping at his heels the whole freaking time?

You're right. I offer was modest edit.

 

[Ingomike]

That's a fair point. But that's not the standard that was asserted. We're talking about perfection. If words mean stuff then we have to stick with the meaning of what was said. If Trump were perfect for the job, then he has the ability of working through all obstacles. One might reasonably believe he is the best for the job, but "perfect" is hyperbolic. That's all I'm saying.

No one asserted anyone was perfect, that and perfect for the job are miles apart. He is perfect for the job because he has proven he can take the fire the uninstructed throws at him and still accomplish some of the goals his supporters want accomplished…

 

[DadSmith]

I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying here.

Are you saying that a person who was married, remarries while the former spouse is still living, is living in adultery in some jurisdictions? Do you mean "state" more as in "state of being". So explaining the latter in a different way, one would be living in a state of adultery in the divorced example in on sense. As opposed to being in an adulterous state while having a one-time fling. Is that what you're saying?

State of being.
If you are divorced and remarried that is also adultery in a state if being.

 

[jamil]

No one asserted anyone was perfect, that and perfect for the job are miles apart. He is perfect for the job because he has proven he can take the fire the uninstructed throws at him and still accomplish some of the goals his supporters want accomplished…

I didn’t say the man was perfect. I’m talking about the exact standard you are. I think you’re confusing “perfect” for the job, with “best suited” for the job. Perfect for the job would mean he has every skill necessary to accomplish the job regardless of the obstacles. In Trump’s case, there would be fewer obstacles in front of him had he not handed TPTB the rope to hang him. No one is perfect for the job. Trump has faults that tend to work against him, like everyone else.

 

[KG1]

I didn’t say the man was perfect. I’m talking about the exact standard you are. I think you’re confusing “perfect” for the job, with “best suited” for the job. Perfect for the job would mean he has every skill necessary to accomplish the job regardless of the obstacles. In Trump’s case, there would be fewer obstacles in front of him had he not handed TPTB the rope to hang him. No one is perfect for the job. Trump has faults that tend to work against him, like everyone else.

Trump himself has used the word "perfect" a lot to describe some of the things that he has done that maybe weren't quite so perfect.

 

[BugI02]

He would probably be more socially conservative in general than Trump.

I doubt Trump is gullible enough to be fooled like that. In the end you are correct, cheating is cheating.

America First is not necessarily conservative, now is it? There may be some intersections, but they are not the same. I don't understand why you guys try to make him out to be one. Unless it is because you see yourselves as conservatives, therefor someone you support must be as well.

Stick with the America First moniker. It fits better than conservative, and better represents those that support him. I bet there are a lot of supporters that would not consider themselves to be conservatives.

No True Scotsman Conservative? Oy

 

[BugI02]

How many chances does it take for someone perfect for the job to finish it?

Even Jesus is having a second coming, so maybe two?

 

[KLB]

No True Scotsman Conservative? Oy

Keep deluding yourself then. If you took another person with the stances Trump has, I seriously doubt you would consider them a conservative.

Please enlighten me with his conservative traits.

 

[BugI02]

con·serv·a·tive
noun
1.a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
2.a person favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

I don't believe one has to favor a comprehensive list including a summation of anybody and everybody's socially traditional ideas

I find him being against CRT, progressivism and the gennder identity and intersectionality of oppression stuff to be qualifying

If you want 'fiscal conservative', there is a reason that is a separate and specific term - it is a proper subset of 'conservative'

 

[jamil]

Even Jesus is having a second coming, so maybe two?

Allegedly.

 

[jamil]

con·serv·a·tive
noun
1.a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
2.a person favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas.

I don't believe one has to favor a comprehensive list including a summation of anybody and everybody's socially traditional ideas

I find him being against CRT, progressivism and the gennder identity and intersectionality of oppression stuff to be qualifying

If you want 'fiscal conservative', there is a reason that is a separate and specific term - it is a proper subset of 'conservative'

con·serv·a·tive
noun

Anyone to the political right of John F Kennedy.

 

[manifest destiny]

The term "America First" shouldn't be offensive to any American, left/right/conservative/progressive/alphabet mafia/disphoric. If each of these groups are American citizens, each should want our collective governance to be America First. There is a short list of pols that espouse America First let alone explain how they'll govern using that philosophy; an extremely short list.